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Post by 18majors on Aug 1, 2016 11:30:02 GMT
Power is a given for Ariya, and power isn't limited to the driver. With Ariya's clubhead speed, any club is a weapon when she gives it a full whip.
What impressed me during the first 15 holes of Ariya's final round of 2016 ANA Inspiration was first her putting, and then her short games around the green. I commented at the time, that Ariya had a powerful clubhead speed and a soft hand, and that combination would make her the player to beat.
Ariya, rather than Jason Day, is the reincarnation of Tiger at his prime. Jason Day, who despite of the media hoopla, doesn't match Dustin Johnson and Rory McIlroy in sheer power.
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Post by bangkokbobby on Aug 1, 2016 11:32:45 GMT
Interesting factoid from this ESPNW story on Ariya's win: Ariya Jutanugarn learns from previous mistakes to win Women's British OpenA Sprout Social report for the LPGA (Jan. 1 to July 29, 2016) revealed that Thailand is ranked second for LPGA Facebook fans, both in reach and engagement. Three of the five most-watched videos in 2016 were highlights or interviews of Jutanugarn. The country is clearly a golfing market ready to be tapped. - Matt Cooper, ESPNW He also suggests that maybe Thailand is the nation to answer the challenge thrown down by South Korea. Ummmm, I can't go that far. It can't be one Thai player, no matter how good, against all of the Seoul Sisters. Maybe in 7-10 years when little girls inspired by Ariya come through, then we can revisit that suggestion...although, I will say there are a couple of really good young Thai players coming up...you'll see them soon...there's a 16-year old named Kanphanitnan Muangkhumsakul (and you thought Ariya Jutanugarn was a tough name for Westerners to pronounce!) that might be a special player. She won a tournament on the TLPGA earlier this year: Kanphanitnan Muangkhumsakul Wins 2016 Hitachi Ladies Open (TLPGA)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 12:07:40 GMT
Power is a given for Ariya, and power isn't limited to the driver. With Ariya's clubhead speed, any club is a weapon when she gives it a full whip. What impressed me during the first 15 holes of Ariya's final round of 2016 ANA Inspiration was first her putting, and then her short games around the green. I commented at the time, that Ariya had a powerful clubhead speed and a soft hand, and that combination would make her the player to beat. Ariya, rather than Jason Day, is the reincarnation of Tiger at his prime. Jason Day, who despite of the media hoopla, doesn't match Dustin Johnson and Rory McIlroy in sheer power. Oh please, all due respect to Ariya but a Tiger she is not.. Tiger is Tiger, no-one else is Tiger until they start doing Tiger things in Tigers sandbox and the reality is the sandbox the women play in may as well be on a different planet. I love women's golf far more than men's golf but I do understand there are serious differences in play. The two forms of the game are hardly comparable, even if they produce a similar result. Similarly, as much as I love LK the Tiger comparisons the media come up there just make me laugh, yes, LK has done some awesome things but give me a break. LK wouldn't last 10 minutes on the PGA..
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Post by don on Aug 1, 2016 16:40:08 GMT
left, If you fairly compensate women for chasing the absurd dream of playing women's pro sports in the first place then comparisons by accomplishment become more apt. Mens fields are deeper, well, good for all those men that went into a luxury sports dream job. If you fairly compensate them for height, weight and structure then they aren't necessarily worse players then the men. Both sexes are reaching the peak of human achievement given modern instruction, equipment and training. I liked what Jerry Foltz said on the 18th green. We've been under-appreciating women's golfers and their accomplishments for generations. Anyway, I'm not picking on you or your comment. It's not wrong. It's just when I read something like "LK wouldn't last 10 min" I feel I need to help balance the scales of the discussion.
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 1, 2016 16:49:15 GMT
Congratulations to Jutanguarn on her win. I have to say, though, that this really feels like yet another Major that got away from the Koreans. It is now five straight Majors without a win for the Sisters, which is one of the most woeful streaks they've had in years and years.
For what seems like the zillionth time this year, one of the Korean gals had a chance to win a big one and let it slip right through her fingers. Mirim had Jutanugarn on the ropes; she was dying to barf this one up. And at that point, Mirim made way too many mistakes and couldn't tighten the vice.
I said yesterday that Mirim's main goal had to be to hang in there until she got her chance, because given Ariya's history, a few mistakes were almost certainly going to happen sooner or later. And right from the start, Mirim messed up. She played so poorly on the first few holes that I was pretty much ready to give up completely. But I knew that there was going to be an opening at some point; could Mirim get back into position to take it?
I'll give her credit. I thought she was dead man walking at the turn. I only kept watching to see where So Yeon and company were going to finish. Then Mirim rallied with three straight birdies. Her deficit was cut to three. It still seemed unlikely she could win, though.
Then she got the break of the year when her hideous pitch shot hit the flag and stopped dead. Easy par save, and it so rattled Jutanugarn that she made her only major mistake of the week, a double bogey. NOW we had a tournament.
Alas, that was it for Mirim. She had a golden chance for a birdie on 15; missed it. I knew right then that it was over. If she isn't going to make a birdie putt like that, she wasn't ready to win.
Ariya did give her another break by also missing. Then Lee made a complete hash on 16, and somehow managed an unbelievable par save from disaster. But the fact she was in that position in the first place showed that she was letting Ariya off the hook again.
So let's look at the positives. Mirim made a lot of bad shots, but she also had a great run to get back into it, and that par save on 16 is one I won't forget too soon. This was her best Major finish to date, and she didn't just trail off after a great first round like she did @ Cordevalle. But darn it all, did I want to see one of my faves hoist an important trophy. One year is a long time to wait for something big to happen. You gotta wonder what needs to happen to get someone over the hump: even with a record tying first round and some major luck from the golf gods, the Sisters still don't get the trophy.
There was some good news with a few other players who were non-factors but still cashed nice checks.
Ha Na Jang beat In Gee by a shot, and she got the top five; still, In Gee and So Yeon managed top tens, which is swell (especially for In Gee, who really rallied on the weekend). In Gee should go into the Olympics with a little confidence. MJ Hur had a top 20, which is rare for her in a Major.
On the other hand, terrible week for Sei Young Kim, and Sung Hyun Park finally had a stinker tournament after playing well every other time she teed it up on the LPGA. It happens.
On to Rio! A gold medal would go a long way towards redeeming this year. Sisters Hwaiting!!!
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 1, 2016 16:59:58 GMT
The updated Rolex Ranking will show Lydia Ko No. 1 with about 15.10 and Ariya No. 3 with about 8.10. Wow, thanks for making me feel even worse! I can't even recall the last time a Korean golfer wasn't in the top three in the Rolex rankings, but I would bet it hasn't been more recently than 2012. Sigh. Inbee, get well soon!
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Post by mr3putt on Aug 1, 2016 17:00:32 GMT
I totally see Aryia as a Yani type player, really strong with a decent short game but susceptible to the wilds. When she's on she's all but unbeatable but her results will vary wildly. Agree....just because Ariya is on a hot streak...doesn't mean they will be forever. Everyone always drools over the major champs (men and women) for a week and then it fades. I like Lang...but she caught lightening in a bottle....I don't see her winning much more in her career....maybe once more and IMO...twice tops. Look at Lewis's cold streak...how about Morgan's or Aza's winless streak. We both agree the women's tour isn't hugely deep....so most winner's are from the top 20 rankings and skewed into the top 10. As of now if SHP, Am's Choi or Seong, etc..... make it to the LPGA in the next 2 years....I don't see them becoming immediate dominators.
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Post by mr3putt on Aug 1, 2016 17:02:27 GMT
Ariya is now only 10 points behind Ko in the meaningless Mannika award.
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 1, 2016 17:02:47 GMT
Congrats to Beth Allen(-6) for winning the LET Women's Open this week...throw in her high finish last week in Scotland and she should be able to replenish her wardrobe. And maybe a new girlfriend too. Today was Van City's PRIDE parade. Justin Trudeau wasted taxpayer's money and participated in the parade....no way Harper would fly in. Make Canada Great Again! This is getting a bit too close to political talk IMO. Please refrain. Thanks!
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 1, 2016 17:05:45 GMT
Respect to May for I didn't give enough to her. As Judy Rankin said, just think how good she can get when she trusts her driver. She can still get nervy but she is controlling that better and better. I loved the course. I wish they would play more English countryside courses. Needed to be set up a bit tougher IMO. I don't like it when Majors are won at 15 under par or lower. Perhaps a bit longer, or more rough off the tee? Still, it's nice to see a tournament in Britain where the ladies aren't dressed in parkas!
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 1, 2016 17:09:45 GMT
There was already "Thai is the next Korea" talk before her win today. Let's see if the win today will spawn future "Ariya kids". I don't know what kind of access Thai kids have to golf, but at least they have one advantage over the Koreans: year round playing. Happy Fan, are you sweating a little bit now ? Nah. Even when Se Ri was just starting, you already had Mi Hyun Kim as a legit superstar in Korea and Grace Park demolishing the competition in the amateur ranks. I'm not seeing anything remotely like that happening in Thai golf for now. Unless they have a raft of long hitting teens we haven't seen, I think the Sisters are safe for the time being. Having said that, I would really love to see one or two of these young Korean guns step up to the plate and start winning! Rio would be a good place to start.
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 1, 2016 17:11:50 GMT
I enjoyed seeing the course, but I have to agree with 3putt that I look forward to the links and lousy weather for the WBO. The BWO is the one time of the year the girls get to play links golf, that's what it is and what it should be. I say no to more like this one, we get these type of courses week in week out and as a Major this course wasn't any more difficult than a CWO or a Kingsmill, dammit, Majors are supposed to be hard, make it so! I liked seeing a non-links course, I just wish it were set up a little harder. Winning score should be 6 to 10 under par at best I think, worse if the weather is bad.
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 1, 2016 17:13:09 GMT
There was already "Thai is the next Korea" talk before her win today. Let's see if the win today will spawn future "Ariya kids". I don't know what kind of access Thai kids have to golf, but at least they have one advantage over the Koreans: year round playing. Happy Fan, are you sweating a little bit now ? There's been a lot more Thai rookies on the LPGA over the last few years than there has been Koreans but the Koreans are (generally) of a much higher standard given their access to the 3rd best tour in the world. In time the Thai's will get better but I don't see them overtaking the Koreans in the Top 100 any time soon.. Second best tour. How many Major winners have come from the JLPGA or LET in recent years?
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Post by mr3putt on Aug 1, 2016 17:25:01 GMT
KLPGA is the 3rd best women's tour as far as purse and gallery sizes....if the KLPGA was 2nd best then why aren't Smile Candy, Ji Ya, and Sky playing the KLPGA?....because these 3 believe they are too soft to play against their fellow Korean robots?
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Post by mr3putt on Aug 1, 2016 17:33:44 GMT
I have to say, though, that this really feels like yet another Major that got away from the Koreans. It is now five straight Majors without a win for the Sisters, which is one of the most woeful streaks they've had in years and years. For what seems like the zillionth time this year, one of the Korean gals had a chance to win a big one and let it slip right through her fingers. Mirim had Jutanugarn on the ropes; she was dying to barf this one up. And at that point, Mirim made way too many mistakes and couldn't tighten the vice. Huh....Ko won the ANA....Ko's Korean. Face it....if Minjee won yesterday....you'd be drooling with a huge post with pictures too....Minjee is so much more FAKE than Ko.
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