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Post by mr3putt on Sept 20, 2015 21:46:44 GMT
The hole conceded putt really took away from any real and satisfying celebrations from the Mericans and took any steam from the Euros to win it. Supposedly Alison also had some conceded putt issues earlier in the event. I play skins with a friend and unless I hear it's good even on an 18" putt...I walk to my putt and address it and putt it because it hasn't been conceded....why...because I've missed short putts and know I've got to sink the putt to make money...and we typically only play for a quarter per hole. Hmmmmmm...seems like Hull was walking to Tutta to discuss the putt....this vid sheds more light onto the incident. www.lpga.com/videos/pettersen-and-hull-address-concession-controversy-from-morning-at-solheim-cupI'm surprised they didn't ask MW to talk during this vid....mayybe after the vid. www.lpga.com/videos/team-usa-winning-press-conference-at-the-2015-solheim-cupSo what's worse...Annika having to re-chip in 2000 or this incident?....the media is avoiding any of it or Seve's gamesmanship. If it was the PGA tour...Tutta would be boo'd at any US event. |
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Post by mr3putt on Sept 20, 2015 21:49:54 GMT
OK
A new conspiracy theory.
The Dark Side has been waiting for an excuse to dump Tutta...now they can sign up Alison.
This controversy is the best thing that could happen to Alison...she was an unknown to the casual fan....now a few more fans will know who she is.
Nike will launch a new shirt on Tuesday?
"Is this putt good?"
Nike has to stop the M1 campaign at TM.
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Post by mr3putt on Sept 20, 2015 21:53:47 GMT
Gerina Pillar's putt on 18 was the defining moment to me. Yup...great clutch putt from Gerina..who is not known as a good putter. Another Big Break showing up at the Solheim...Ryann in 2011. |
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Post by bangkokbobby on Sept 20, 2015 22:32:07 GMT
more pics and video on my blog: Team USA Shows Heart, Resilience In Comeback 2015 Solheim Cup Victory!Paula Creamer This is why I never gave up on Team USA. Even after they were in holes after days 1 and 2 of Solheim Cup 2015, I felt if they could keep it close, maybe 2 points behind…at the most 3…they would have the advantage in singles. Sure, Europe handed the Americans their hats in singles at Solheim Cup 2013, 7.5 to 4.5, but historically Our Ladies have had the advantage in singles play. Although anything can happen in match play, going by Rolex Rankings, we should have the stronger squad top to bottom in singles. Put it this way, some people (certainly NOT me) thought Paula Creamer was a controversial pick for Team USA, despite her stellar Solheim Cup record. By Rolex Rankings, she ranked 11th out of 12 Team USA players. However, she would have ranked 4th on the European side, behind only Suzann Pettersen, Anna Nordqvist and Azahara Munoz. What I didn’t anticipate was falling behind 6 points to 10 after day 2 matches were completed Sunday morning before day 3 singles began. That was similar to the 10.5 (EUR) to 5.5 (USA) deficit from 2013 going into singles. Not only were we in a similar predicament, there was anger, controversy and tears before the singles even started. Alison Lee Alison Lee and Brittany Lincicome started the morning finishing their fourball match against Suzann Pettersen and Charley Hull. All square on 17, Lee missed a birdie putt to win the hole. The ball stopped maybe 1 foot…possibly a foot and a half from the hole. Alison said she thought she heard somebody say, “that’s good,” basically conceding the hole. Suzann was already off the green en route to the final hole and Charley was walking off. Thinking the hole had been conceded, Lee picked up her ball. Then, Pettersen turned around and said the hole was not conceded, saying no verbal communication of concession ever came from their team. Later, Alison would admit it was possible what she heard came from the crowd. By the letter of the law, Pettersen was correct. I cannot dispute that point. However, by the spirit of sportsmanship, it certainly appeared by body language that Pettersen and Hull were fast on their way to the next hole and had conceded the short putt. There was no cheating per se, but I do think there was gamesmanship. I think most people in that situation, with Suzann and Charley on their way to the next hole, would have thought the hole had been conceded. Instead, not only was that not the case, Team USA lost the hole to go 1-down instead of leaving #17 with the match all square. Pettersen and Hull would go on to win hole 18 to win 2-up, but it left a bitter taste in the mouths of the Americans. If you beat us, you beat us. Fair and square. Tip our hats. But this one seemed like Suzann made it appear she was conceding only to turn around when it was too late for Alison to fix her mistake. Even Charley Hull was in tears at the situation. Europe’s captains also talked to Suzann, but Pettersen appeared to be unreceptive. In fact, on a few holes in singles play it seemed to me that Suzann was in the mood to show up everybody by getting off the green as quickly as possible when she could. Unfortunately, for Team Europe, the Americans weren’t going gently into defeat. Gerina Piller Team USA came out in singles and showed their strength, particularly on the backend in final matches. They needed to prevent the Europeans from earning 4 points. Nothing short of 8.5 to 3.5 was acceptable if the Americans were to win. That’s exactly what they scored. In a rematch from Solheim Cup 2013, where Caroline Hedwall beat Michelle Wie 1-up, Wie turned the tables on Hedwall by blowing her out 6 & 4. Alison Lee bounced back from her morning heartbreak to take out Gwladys Nocera 3 & 1. Angela Stanford put past Solheim ghosts to bed with a measure of payback for the Americans, beating Pettersen 2 & 1. However, the biggest shot of the day came from Gerina Piller. Going to 18 1-up on Caroline Masson, Gerina was in position to lose the hole as Caroline had a putt to win the hole and halve the match. With Team Europe at that time sitting on 13.5 points, all they needed was that half a point to retain the Solheim Cup. Piller knew it. She had looked up at the board and saw Europe at 13 and a half. At worse, she had to havle the hole. Masson missed her birdie putt. Still, the par putt for Piller was a medium range knee knocker. With so much pressure, it would have been understandable if she missed. Captain Juli Inkster was crouched down looking at the ground, unable to even watch. Gerina, standing over maybe the biggest putt of her life, just STUCK IT! That didn’t yet win the Solheim Cup for the Americans, but it would have lost it if she had missed. Stanford’s win over Pettersen a few minutes later left Paula Creamer, the controversial…somehow…pick for the Americans, with the final match to seal the deal. She was so far up on Sandra Gal it was a near formality. The Pink Panther closed out Gal and the Europeans 4 & 3 to return the Solheim Cup to the USA for the first time since 2009, 14.5 to 13.5. Team USA So let the celebration begin for Team USA! They showed heart, tenacity and resilience. Even had they lost, I would have said so based on what I saw. I wrote that in 2013 after they lost. But it’s so much sweeter when you win. And maybe for a little while we won’t have to hear people ask what is wrong with our Solheim (and Ryder Cup, for that matter) team. All that talent and they can’t beat Europe. Hey, you win some and you lose some, especially in golf. I never lost hope or belief in Our Ladies. They are fighters. So are the Europeans. I am just so happy and proud of what Team USA did out there to win back the Solheim Cup. When it counted the most, they gave their best. Congratulations, Team USA! Lexi Thompson Morgan Pressel Gerina Piller Stacy Lewis Lizette Salas pumped up! Angela Stanford Cristie Kerr Alison Lee and Michelle Wie Juli Inkster  |
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Post by verdantgarden on Sept 21, 2015 3:37:38 GMT
What an amazing comeback victory for the US! Too bad I couldn't watch much of it due to the majority of the action coming in the dead of night on the West Coast. I didn't see one swing of Michelle Wie's until I watched the Golf Channel recap of the day.
How deliciously ironic that it was Angela Stanford who would apply the coup de grace on Pettersen.
I bad-mouthed Paula but she put paid to any hopes of Europe's by coasting over Gal.
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Post by mr3putt on Sept 21, 2015 5:57:33 GMT
WTF...what does this have to do with the Solheim. And why is he a dope? I don't get it....maybe The Smiling Buddha is a dope too?....or is this some kind of weird form of sarcasm?  ?....huh. |
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Post by IceCat on Sept 21, 2015 9:48:44 GMT
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Post by centurion on Sept 21, 2015 14:22:38 GMT
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Post by cannlinny on Sept 21, 2015 16:06:36 GMT
I agree that 'F' for Allison Lee is not accurate. Can hardly downgrade her for food poisoning and she did win her singles with every point critical. Probably 'C-', with credit for singles win and discredit for mistake in 'the incident'.
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Post by centurion on Sept 21, 2015 20:33:45 GMT
Again, it's a rank based on the week, not necessarily her play as a whole. Lee gets an F the same reason Pettersen gets an F - certain things overshadowed the golf, whether it was their fault or not. Difference is, Lee has time to make up for it. This may follow Pettersen.
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Post by dennis on Sept 21, 2015 23:00:28 GMT
This bad habit of walking off the green early would finally bite Pettersen in @$$. Just a plain miserable person.
US fans are going to have field day with her at tournaments.
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Post by mr3putt on Oct 10, 2015 19:16:28 GMT
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Post by cannlinny on Oct 10, 2015 21:43:20 GMT
I can't believe Carin Koch backed up the bus and ran over Petterson again now that it was all in the rear view mirror. If she didn't have the stomach to insist on a concession at the time, it's pretty low to bring it up now.
(Yikes- just noticed the avatar is upside down! Husband will not be happy if that brings another Cubbie loss.)
(Fixed it)
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?....huh.
