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Post by SoYeonFan on Feb 23, 2015 3:17:38 GMT
Congratulation to Q Baek she is beginning to get more and more comfortable out there.
Fought her way back, after not so great a first round.
She has a great upside, because there's no quit in her.
On another note. So Yeon came back but finished poorly.
Still believe she will have lots of wins, before she is done.
Too talented not to.
Congratulation to Lydia Ko for the win.
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Post by mr3putt on Feb 23, 2015 4:02:09 GMT
Congrats to Lydia.
Ko is Kool.
BUT
As much as I like Lydia.....Inbee and Stacy aren't going anywhere.
If Inbee's putting is on...look out.
And as much as Lewis is pouty and a sore loser.....she doesn't take being NOT #1 lightly.....IMO....Lewis's intensity is far greater than Ko & Inbee......she'll stomp on your throat....but intensity doesn't necessarily turn into win.
Yes....Ko won it....but many top pros were absent in Melbourne.
Lydia sure knows how to play within herself....we've never seen her swing out of balance....same with Inbee...Lewis does swing harder....but again...99% in form.
I think Lydia likes to tinker....we've seen many caddie changes (though I think The Dragon Lady has a lot to do with this).....we've seen Ko switch putters a few times...including multiple putter grip changes.
I'd think she should minimize these and other small small changes she doing to become so repetitive with......... same old same old.
And Lydia still is a bit unsure with her putter...we've seen her switch back from standard grip and left hand low during a round....though standard is more common with longer putts.
Lydia is not the fastest pro.
Have you all noticed how even slower she is.....now that she's employing Aimpoint.
Yes, Aimpoint might be working for her....but Aimpoint is not effective unless you have ideal putting speed/pace.
This slow play definitely will affect some of her faster playing partner's performance.
You'll never see a slower player adjust to their faster partner's cadence unless they are put on the clock.
The fast player has no escape but to play to the speed of the slowest player.
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Post by mr3putt on Feb 23, 2015 4:05:58 GMT
Yes.....there's always second guessing after the fact....yes Amy should have been more aggressive on her 2nd shot on 17...but she might have been too far back to get pin high....therefore decided to lay back.
IMO....the more troublesome issues for Amy were the two missed putts on 15 & 17.
We know that Amy's not the greatest closer and her nerves seem to show up coming down the stretch...just the slightest flinch or smallest jerk will send a putt on an undesirable path.
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Post by mr3putt on Feb 23, 2015 4:14:32 GMT
Classic Ariya.
Her poor course management and temperament didn't affect her results as much as an Am with weaker competition...but this is the big league and ya can't win against the premier precision of the top pros.
I also think she doesn't like to listen....even if she had a strong-willed strategic caddie.
BUT....I love watching Ariya swinging hard....like Yani, Caroline Hedwall and when Wie wants to pump one out there.
I don't think they had superior instruction/coaching in the UK and Thailand. Both have incredible talent....but I think if Charley Hull
and Ariya attended some of the top notch golf academies in the US....I think they'd be different and more effective in their golf...especially mentally.
I no nothing about the academies in S. Korea and can't speak to them.
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Post by bangkokbobby on Feb 23, 2015 14:30:43 GMT
I don't want to be too hard on Ariya. As I said, I'd call her effectively erratic. Both words are key. For all of her inconsistencies she is still 7th in scoring with a runner-up and 3rd place finish in the first three events. Her worst finish is 11th. She's not that far removed from winning.
I also felt badly for Ha Na Jang. She took herself out of contention with a few poor holes. As for the club toss, I'm going to cut her a break, so long as it doesn't become a habitual practice. I don't think it will.
My goodness what a rookie class. Sei Young Kim, Ha Na Jang, Ariya Jutanugarn, Minjee Lee, Charley Hull...just to name a few. Could turn out to be the deepest rookie class in recent memory. We shall see.
Speaking of rookies, the LPGA needs a unified points table for player of the year and rookie of the year. Sei Young Kim leads Ariya in POY but trails in ROY. Although I think it won't happen due to Lydia, Stacy and Inbee, in theory one rookie could be POY yet not win ROY. Can't have that happen. If it did, the golf press would be all over it, which the LPGA doesn't need as it grows its legitimacy.
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Post by centurion on Feb 23, 2015 15:51:01 GMT
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Post by HappyFan on Feb 23, 2015 17:43:55 GMT
I don't want to be too hard on Ariya. As I said, I'd call her effectively erratic. Both words are key. For all of her inconsistencies she is still 7th in scoring with a runner-up and 3rd place finish in the first three events. Her worst finish is 11th. She's not that far removed from winning. I also felt badly for Ha Na Jang. She took herself out of contention with a few poor holes. As for the club toss, I'm going to cut her a break, so long as it doesn't become a habitual practice. I don't think it will. My goodness what a rookie class. Sei Young Kim, Ha Na Jang, Ariya Jutanugarn, Minjee Lee, Charley Hull...just to name a few. Could turn out to be the deepest rookie class in recent memory. We shall see. Speaking of rookies, the LPGA needs a unified points table for player of the year and rookie of the year. Sei Young Kim leads Ariya in POY but trails in ROY. Although I think it won't happen due to Lydia, Stacy and Inbee, in theory one rookie could be POY yet not win ROY. Can't have that happen. If it did, the golf press would be all over it, which the LPGA doesn't need as it grows its legitimacy. This is hands down the best rookie class the LPGA has had, at least since I've been watching. You didn't even mention Major winner Hyo Joo Kim and tournament winner Q Baek. And though they pale compared to the others, SooBin Kim was the top college player in the game last year, and Alison Lee was second, and they are also rookies. Re: POY vs. ROY. This was a problem on the KLPGA, too. For a long time, Baek trailed Jin Young Ko in POY but led her in ROY (and sometimes it was the other way around!). |
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Post by bangkokbobby on Feb 24, 2015 3:00:18 GMT
I don't want to be too hard on Ariya. As I said, I'd call her effectively erratic. Both words are key. For all of her inconsistencies she is still 7th in scoring with a runner-up and 3rd place finish in the first three events. Her worst finish is 11th. She's not that far removed from winning. I also felt badly for Ha Na Jang. She took herself out of contention with a few poor holes. As for the club toss, I'm going to cut her a break, so long as it doesn't become a habitual practice. I don't think it will. My goodness what a rookie class. Sei Young Kim, Ha Na Jang, Ariya Jutanugarn, Minjee Lee, Charley Hull...just to name a few. Could turn out to be the deepest rookie class in recent memory. We shall see. Speaking of rookies, the LPGA needs a unified points table for player of the year and rookie of the year. Sei Young Kim leads Ariya in POY but trails in ROY. Although I think it won't happen due to Lydia, Stacy and Inbee, in theory one rookie could be POY yet not win ROY. Can't have that happen. If it did, the golf press would be all over it, which the LPGA doesn't need as it grows its legitimacy. This is hands down the best rookie class the LPGA has had, at least since I've been watching. You didn't even mention Major winner Hyo Joo Kim and tournament winner Q Baek. And though they pale compared to the others, SooBin Kim was the top college player in the game last year, and Alison Lee was second, and they are also rookies. Re: POY vs. ROY. This was a problem on the KLPGA, too. For a long time, Baek trailed Jin Young Ko in POY but led her in ROY (and sometimes it was the other way around!). Indeed, Hyo Joo Kim might long term be the best of the bunch...of course, I am emotionally invested in Ariya...so I hope she finally gets Thailand win #1...but Hyo Joo Kim could be the one who turns out to be very special. Another nice wrap up video of Lydia's win: |
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Post by pushing100 on Feb 25, 2015 9:21:39 GMT
Not to change the subject but...
During the tournament Lydia said that David Leadbetter is asking her to stand taller when she swings, apparently trying to correct how Lydia drops her head 1-2 inches (something like Paula Creamer but not as pronounced). Lydia keeps that exact same lower head position through contact.
Standing taller seems to be going the wrong way, since Lydia's swing is more of the one-plane type (something like Angel Cabrara's). So instead of standing taller at address, what about standing "shorter" (i.e., bending more at the waist)? That way the swing itself remains unchanged (leaving untouched the "Mona Lisa," as David L once called Lydia's swing).
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Post by SoYeonFan on Feb 25, 2015 18:37:30 GMT
Not to change the subject but... During the tournament Lydia said that David Leadbetter is asking her to stand taller when she swings, apparently trying to correct how Lydia drops her head 1-2 inches (something like Paula Creamer but not as pronounced). Lydia keeps that exact same lower head position through contact. Standing taller seems to be going the wrong way, since Lydia's swing is more of the one-plane type (something like Angel Cabrara's). So instead of standing taller at address, what about standing "shorter" (i.e., bending more at the waist)? That way the swing itself remains unchanged (leaving untouched the "Mona Lisa," as David L once called Lydia's swing). The same Leadbetter that changed Micheile Wie's great free flowing swing. That she had as a teenager. He does not understand the concept "that if it's not broken, don't fix it".
When they announced that she would be working with him. My first thought was, OH NO, here we go again. Another great swing ruined.
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Post by pushing100 on Feb 26, 2015 6:37:03 GMT
I'm certainly not going to throw DAVID LEADBETTER under the bus but I hope he realizes that not everybody plays in a sombrero...
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