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Post by philknj on Dec 7, 2015 18:39:34 GMT
It was frustrating watching some Aussie who had little incentive to play hard hand a match to the Japanese, knowing it would cost the Koreans dearly. In other words, they love the Japanese in Oz, but hate the Koreans!   |
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Post by mr3putt on Dec 7, 2015 18:51:22 GMT
It was frustrating watching some Aussie who had little incentive to play hard hand a match to the Japanese, knowing it would cost the Koreans dearly. In other words, they love the Japanese in Oz, but hate the Koreans! Yup...there has always been a conspiracy against the Koreans.....everyone wants them to lose and not just the Mericans....the Koreans are killing any tour they compete in. As I've said many times....Happyfan is 2nd funniest in this forum......no one will ever displace fanofseri....his 'fake' comment will go down in infamy HOF...just ask SayYouSeRi. |
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Post by centurion on Dec 7, 2015 19:15:56 GMT
For next year, I would suggest the following change. The Koreans and Japanese only faced each other five times all week; Japan's margin was 3-2. Instead, why not have the two top teams in the first two days go head to head in ALL the singles matches, and ditto the bottom two teams? It was frustrating watching some Aussie who had little incentive to play hard hand a match to the Japanese, knowing it would cost the Koreans dearly. But then you have the potential of the third place team sweeping their matches with the worst team and winning the competition without having to face the top 2 teams. Any time you have team contests like this and you're not going strictly by stroke play, you're going to have flaws. |
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Post by philknj on Dec 7, 2015 19:36:16 GMT
There's nothing wrong with the format, don't change it. But, the LET and ALPG must do a better recruiting job! Is there a women's pro tour in Canada?! The Canadian Princess + Sharpie + seven Q-school Cannucks might have been more competitive. I can understand Stephanie Na and Nikki Garrett getting whupped, but what's K. Kirk's excuse? She has won on the LPGA tour, but was sent home with the other two in plastic bags wearing toe tags. Tip your cap to Team Japan...they stormed the team matches like a bunch of Ninjas.  |
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Post by SoYeonFan on Dec 7, 2015 20:06:34 GMT
It came down to the clutch birdie putt made by Ayaka Watanabe on eighteen.
Yoon Yi Cho was inside of her with a short birdie that could have tied her.
IF Ayaka missed her birdie and Yoon Yi made birdie.
However Yoon Ji putt meant nothing after Ayaka made hers.
If I calculated correctly KLPGA would have tied the JLPGA at thirty nine points.
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Post by philknj on Dec 7, 2015 20:06:53 GMT
They were decals; you could see the square outlines around them. As an alternative, I wonder if the top-nine Koreans on the JLPGA tour this year would have won? They’d be really strong up top (Dumbo, BML, Ahn, Shin, JH Lee, Sky), but the bottom three would be iffy. I enjoyed this event more than I expected…the unusual mathematics of four teams and three points for a win made it much less predictable than the ING LPGA vs. KLPGA the week before. I’ve been thinking about that birdie putt Watanabe made at #18. If she misses, and Cho makes her much shorter birdie putt, the match is halved and Korea leads Japan 39-38 (I am including the projected results of matches 11 thru 14 and 16 thru 18, which were not going to change). That leaves match #15, Hara vs. Icher. Knowing she has to come back from one-down to win the match so Japan can win the event, is Hara good enough to do it? Maybe she is, but we’ll never know as the pressure was off after Watanabe’s birdie. Hara won the 18th hole to halve the match (and was delighted to do so). If the tourney finished 39-39, did they have a tie-breaking process? I didn’t watch the GC coverage. Did they explain how the singles matches were set up? Maybe it was done by the committee or by random selection. I, too, couldn’t believe that Korea was going to “waste” Bo Mee Lee and In Gee Chun against two players no one ever heard of before. BML or Dumbo could have gotten inside Watanabe’s head...another good choice would have Park, who could have matched Watanabe’s beastly power. Japan's team was (much) older than Korea's...maybe that intangible helped them play better in the four-balls & foursomes. |
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Post by mr3putt on Dec 7, 2015 22:06:04 GMT
There's nothing wrong with the format, don't change it. But, the LET and ALPG must do a better recruiting job! Is there a women's pro tour in Canada?! The Canadian Princess + Sharpie + seven Q-school Cannucks might have been more competitive. I can understand Stephanie Na and Nikki Garrett getting whupped, but what's K. Kirk's excuse? She has won on the LPGA tour, but was sent home with the other two in plastic bags wearing toe tags. Tip your cap to Team Japan...they stormed the team matches like a bunch of Ninjas. Very funny...a Canuck team would have been slaughtered....like beating baby seals. Apart from the Canadian Princess and Sharpie....the others aren't great. Yes....there's a Cdn tour...but it's a 'fake' tour....only 3 regional events and then some National titles......I go to the regional one here when it's in Van City to actually watch the Big Break gals......but BB is now defunct. |
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Post by mr3putt on Dec 7, 2015 22:07:48 GMT
The approach shot by the Japanese gal on #18 vs. Icher was brilliant to obtain a point...though Icher nearly drained a 40 footer.
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Post by mr3putt on Dec 7, 2015 22:08:04 GMT
Centurion
Who is your avatar and why?....the Steelers creamed the Colts.
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Post by HappyFan on Dec 8, 2015 6:44:23 GMT
It was frustrating watching some Aussie who had little incentive to play hard hand a match to the Japanese, knowing it would cost the Koreans dearly. In other words, they love the Japanese in Oz, but hate the Koreans! The Aussies were generous: they were handing wins to the Koreans, too  . But when you have to make up ground, you need the team you are trying to catch to not win so much! |
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Post by HappyFan on Dec 8, 2015 6:47:09 GMT
For next year, I would suggest the following change. The Koreans and Japanese only faced each other five times all week; Japan's margin was 3-2. Instead, why not have the two top teams in the first two days go head to head in ALL the singles matches, and ditto the bottom two teams? It was frustrating watching some Aussie who had little incentive to play hard hand a match to the Japanese, knowing it would cost the Koreans dearly. But then you have the potential of the third place team sweeping their matches with the worst team and winning the competition without having to face the top 2 teams. Any time you have team contests like this and you're not going strictly by stroke play, you're going to have flaws. No, cause in my suggested plan, if you are in the consolation match, you are playing for the bronze. In other words, no matter how many points you score, you can not finish ahead of the two teams in the gold medal match; your score is only used to compare you to your direct opponent. The Olympics uses a similar system in several sports. |
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Post by HappyFan on Dec 8, 2015 6:53:13 GMT
If the tourney finished 39-39, did they have a tie-breaking process? Not sure, but in the Pinx Cup, from which this event was spawned, there was once a tie after play ended. They had each team pick a single player to play 18; if they tied, they sent another two players out, and so on, until one won. I can't recall the exact order, but I remember the year of the tie, both JJ and Seon Hwa Lee were involved in the playoff, and I think JJ lost.  But I confess my memory is hazy, just that those two were involved. |
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Post by HappyFan on Dec 8, 2015 6:58:24 GMT
Japan's team was (much) older than Korea's...maybe that intangible helped them play better in the four-balls & foursomes. Also, I think several of the Japanese players have played in the team matches before at the Pinx/Kyoraku Cup; Oyama has been around for ages. Most of the Korean squad is really new to this. Other than Bo Mee Lee and maybe Jung Min Lee, I doubt any of them have played in more than two previous editions. Well, this week was a good way to gain experience! |
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Post by HappyFan on Dec 8, 2015 7:04:12 GMT
I didn’t watch the GC coverage. Did they explain how the singles matches were set up? Maybe it was done by the committee or by random selection. I, too, couldn’t believe that Korea was going to “waste” Bo Mee Lee and In Gee Chun against two players no one ever heard of before. BML or Dumbo could have gotten inside Watanabe’s head...another good choice would have Park, who could have matched Watanabe’s beastly power. They said that the players from each team decided who would face the other side, but that you only knew you were facing the LET, not which player that would actually be. So, they would match In Gee Chun against LET player #1, but which exact player that would end up being they didn't know. The LET would be in the same boat, not sure which Korean would be facing each of their players in their head to head matches. So, the Koreans seemed to have made a decision to send their best against the LET to hold them off and ensure at least second, while sending their second tier gals against the JLPGA. I'm not sure that was necessary, but it did seem to surprise the Japanese players, at least according to the commentators. |
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Post by centurion on Dec 8, 2015 17:51:45 GMT
Centurion Who is your avatar and why?....the Steelers creamed the Colts. Justin Forsett. The Seahawks face the Ravens this week. |
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. But when you have to make up ground, you need the team you are trying to catch to not win so much! 
But I confess my memory is hazy, just that those two were involved.