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Post by haneymademedoit on May 29, 2023 4:11:15 GMT
Yes, I enjoyed seeing the Chicken of the Sea sponsorship so much that I texted my daughter to tell her about it. I agree that the final round was total class, and honestly, one of the things that I enjoy about LPGA is that it is almost always total class. The athletes are totally decent and likeable people. Wish the PGA was the same, but first Tiger then later Mickelson destroyed that illusion. Now LIV is completely demolishing it!
Speaking of class, between my vacation travel and the limited broadcast coverage, I did not catch all of the early rounds of Bank of Hope, but during the final round broadcast, the announcers commented on an incident that had apparently taken place in the 2nd round robin on Thu, if I heard correctly it was Match 51 (round robin day 2) between Furue and Stacy Lewis. Apparently Furue had accidentally forgotten to pick up a marker on an earlier hole and when it was brought to her attention, or more likely she just recalled it on her own, she effectively forfeited what was then the current hole to Stacy. I'm guessing that it was the 5th hole but maybe the 7th or 9th. It was not actually a violation of the rules but it was an inadvertent breach of etiquette. Totally class by Furue!
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Post by philknj on May 29, 2023 9:19:31 GMT
The Google Mush of the above article explains the Furue/Lewis incident:
Ayaka Furue's spirit of fair play Explaining the hard-to-understand events on the 2nd hole
USA Women's Bank of Hope LPGA Match Play presented by MGM Rewards Day 2 (25th) Shadow Creek GC (Nevada) 6804 yards (par 72)
Ayaka Furue defeated former world No. 1 Stacey Lewis to win two consecutive group stage wins, but there were moments when she valued the fairness of her matches even if she was at a disadvantage.
With a 1-up on the 2nd green, Furue putt without returning the marker to her original position because it was on Lewis's line. She wasn't "intentional" and she continued to play without both players noticing, and when she approached No. 4, she self-reported that Furue "maybe she didn't bring her back."
Lewis and both caddies do not remember, and Furue requested a ruling from the competition committee.
The footage from WOWOW, a relay station that accompanied Furue-gumi, clearly showed that the markers had not been returned, and the competition committee also confirmed this. If she had played without returning the marker, she would have been given a two-stroke penalty for "playing from a wrong place" (Rule 15.3c) in stroke competition.
Both teams were par at bat, but she thought that Furue would make a double bogey and Lewis would take second, but the judges were wrong.
The conclusion is that the result of No. 2 cannot be overturned as a draw. What is the difference between match play and stroke play rules? The flow under the Rules of Golf (20.1b) is as follows:
In match play, the principle is that ``a player may request a ruling if he wants the referee or committee to decide how the Rules apply to his or her opponent's play''.
However, there is a time limit that "if the player becomes aware of the fact, the ruling must be requested before either player makes a stroke to begin another hole."
Furue requested a ruling regarding the act in number 2 in number 4. For this reason, "If the player does not request a ruling within this time limit, the referee or Committee will not give a ruling and the result of the hole in question will remain the same, even if they have applied the Rules incorrectly. The provision of "there is" was used.
Furue could have continued playing with the score as it was, but he suggested that Lewis win the following 5th, and he agreed with Lewis. He voluntarily reduced the "point difference" at that point from 2 up to 1 up.
This means that "During a round, players in match play may agree on how to decide a Rule question. Your consent is final unless you agree to disregard the application of
In an interview after the hole-out, Furue reflected, "I couldn't calm down if I just kept doing nothing. It was good that I was doing it with the intention of giving one point," showing the spirit of a gamer. (Editorial department: Misao Ishii, Nozomu Katagawa)
[Golf Rules] (Excerpt)
■ 20.1b Rule Issues in Match Play
(1) Consent Resolution. During a round, match play players may agree on how to decide rules issues:
unless the player agrees to ignore the application of a Rule or penalty known to him (see Rule 1.3b(1)), even if that agreement is found to be erroneous under the Rules; That consent is final.
(2) Request for Ruling Made Before Result of Match Is Final.
A player may request a ruling if he or she wants the referee or Committee to decide how the Rules apply to his or her opponent's play.
• A ruling will be given only if the request is made within the following time limit. The time limit depends on when the player becomes aware of the fact that the Rules issue has arisen:
o If a player becomes aware of the fact before either player has started the final hole of the match. If the player becomes aware of the fact, the ruling must be requested before either player makes a stroke to start another hole.
If the player does not request a ruling within this time limit, the referee or Committee will not give a ruling, and the result of the hole in question will remain, even if they have applied the Rules incorrectly.
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TV Wowow had no one else to follow this week.
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I didn't watch any of this on the weekend, but I think bringing in a bunch of football players for the alternate match on Sunday was a good idea. It prevents a repeat of the SS Feng or someone else dropping out of playing for 3rd place (which no one wants to watch or play for).
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Post by HappyFan on May 29, 2023 17:11:16 GMT
I didn't watch any of this on the weekend, but I think bringing in a bunch of football players for the alternate match on Sunday was a good idea. It prevents a repeat of the SS Feng or someone else dropping out of playing for 3rd place (which no one wants to watch or play for).
Say what? I obviously didn't watch, either. Did they really show a bunch of non-LPGA golfers in the alternate match? |
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Post by bangkokbobby on May 29, 2023 20:15:17 GMT
Obviously, I was very keen to watch Meaw on Sunday. I know this is the SS Forum, but I am so happy for my Thai cousins out there doing great things on this tour I love so much (now if we can just start producing some Thai tennis singles ace ladies players!!! The only top 20 Thai female singles player I can think of off the top of my head was Tamarine Tanasugarn.) But I feel like the influx of Thai players can trace some of its roots back to Seoul Sisters, particularly Se Ri Pak. That's why it was so interesting to me to see how May and Mo lit up when Se Ri Pak's name was mentioned at the International Crown. Se Ri wasn't just an inspiration for Korean players. She inspired young girls who played golf throughout Asia. Somewhat how Li Na did in tennis. No worries, folks. The Seoul Sisters will soon be back in the winners circles. No doubt about that. But until then, I'm going to celebrate my Siamese Sisters!!!  |
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Post by haneymademedoit on Jun 4, 2023 6:00:32 GMT
I didn't watch any of this on the weekend, but I think bringing in a bunch of football players for the alternate match on Sunday was a good idea. It prevents a repeat of the SS Feng or someone else dropping out of playing for 3rd place (which no one wants to watch or play for).
Say what? I obviously didn't watch, either. Did they really show a bunch of non-LPGA golfers in the alternate match? Yes HF, not only did they show non-LPGA golfers but they showed NON-GOLFERS! American NFL football players in an exhibition match. Phil, I agree with you that a 3rd place or consolation match would have been an exhibition so non-LPGA golfers was no less an exhibition. I was irked by considering the analogous situation of a PGA tournament where the tv coverage was repeatedly interrupted to show some concurrent exhibition on the same course. With the exception of a few pro-ams, that would never happen. |
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