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Post by HappyFan on Jul 28, 2022 12:11:57 GMT
I said I'd stop watching the KLPGA if they were stupid enough to strip Ina of her win when she did nothing wrong at that event (that we know). I think that would be ridiculous overkill. But I also think that that scenario was by a dumb writer making stuff up and is very unlikely to happen.
Ina clearly broke the rules and should be punished. What drives me crazy is the leadership vacuum by the KLPGA. How can they not have a process in place to handle rules issues like this quickly and fairly? Why do they not have a definitive statement on the type of punishment she should expect? How can they leave one of their players twisting in the wind like this with seemingly no support? This lack of clarity leads to the spate of stupid articles with wild theories about her fate; the longer it goes on, the more damage it does to her career and yes, her psychological health.
Her crime was not a massive stain on the 700-year old sport of golf; we're not talking the Black Sox Scandal here. There is no need for the Nuremburg Trials. Call her into HQ, hopefully with a representative to help her to know her rights (assuming she has any); have a quick meeting; hand down the sentence; issue a statement that she will be welcomed back after serving her time; Done. Is this hard? Not at all.
Golf's rules are arcane. ANY KLPGA STAR could suddenly find herself in this situation if she inadvertently violated some rule she half understood. They should all be worried that they might go through this, too.
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Post by don on Jul 29, 2022 9:10:50 GMT
Hopefully the balls at least looked similar.
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Post by SoYeonFan on Jul 30, 2022 2:22:14 GMT
The Fairness Committee still haven't decided on a punishment.
What complicates matters is that it was a KGA Tournament not KLPGA.
So who get to decide on the punishment the KGA or KLPGA.
Since the KGA has retroactively DQ her would another penalty be double discipline.
But the sticking point seems to not be the violation but the delay in self reporting it.
I am not sure if the KGA can fine her, just suspending her from playing their Tournament two or three years maybe.
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 30, 2022 6:32:05 GMT
I think blaming her for delaying reporting is really lame. I highly doubt that there is anything in the KLPGA rules that suggests punishment for breaking the rules will get worse the longer one delays reporting (OK, maybe they will give one a smaller penalty if she reports before the end of the event, but no way they say they will punish her worse the more weeks go by after that). It's just them trying to manufacture something else to complain about.
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Post by IceCat on Jul 31, 2022 5:34:43 GMT
A scandal of any kind in Korea will adversely affect a person's career, regardless of whether or not it was intentional. It can happen to anyone in any field with the possible exception of politicians.
You all of course remember the Burning Sun scandal, which took out of circulation several top K-pop stars, notably Seungri of Big Bang who owned the nightclub in question. Equally notorious was rapper MC Mong, who alledgedly tried to exploit a loophole in the military draft system by having several of his teeth removed, which instead of getting a deferment he wound up being brought to court instead. Draft dodging is most certainly frowned upon in Korea, so his career was essentially toast.
By contrast we have the more recent case of veteran singer/songwriter Yoo Hee-Yeol, who also runs a minor label called Antenna Music and for the past 13 years hosted a popular music showcase and interview show on KBS called "Yoo Hee-Yeol's Sketchbook". My use of the past tense is because he's facing multiple accusations of plagiarism, which caused him to abruptly end the show and otherwise withdraw from the public eye for an indefinite period for self reflection. The details are in the video below:
Kevin
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 31, 2022 18:10:03 GMT
No offense, but all of those scandals were far more serious and part of a documented pattern of misbehavior. Canceling someone who has participated in sexual abuse seems far more justified IMO. We have just one known instance of Yoon violating the rules. And she (eventually) came clean and has not tried in any way to throw anyone under the bus. She admits it all.
An interesting similar incident happened a few weeks later. Ga Eun Song was DQed for using an illegal range finder. You are not allowed to use a range finder that also measures altitude changes. Here's the amazing thing: EVEN IF THAT FEATURE IS OFF, it's still illegal. And it was off, says Song. But when she casually asked someone after the round, she was told she was toast.
How on Earth is someone supposed to know this? Imagine if she had not told someone? Would fans be canceling Song as well? Maybe. That's what I mean when I say this could happen to anyone. The KLPGA needs to get off theirs a**es and hand down their punishment so she can move on with her life.
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Post by klpgaenglish on Aug 3, 2022 8:41:08 GMT
A bit pissed this isn't over yet.
Spam KLPGA email addresses demanded a simple punishment and support so they don't lose her to the LPGA.
Can someone post the email addresses here?
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 3, 2022 16:51:33 GMT
Is this it?
hare@klpga.org
That's the address I get when I copy the 'contact us' link.
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Post by SoYeonFan on Aug 3, 2022 19:14:46 GMT
Ina Yoon is a wonderful young golfer with a great personality.
A great asset to the KLPGA, however no one is greater than the Tour.
They have lost some great golfers to the LPGA and JLPGA but keep moving forward.
I am pretty sure that they aren't keeping Ina in the dark and she is probably aware of what's going on.
But the time it takes to make a decision is their call, no one else's.
Edit: Reading an article on Naver website it seems like the KGA will decide the punishment not the KLPGA.
Slip this in Ji Hyun Oh plan to marry at the end of the year.
Although this may be old news
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 11, 2022 17:21:22 GMT
STILL waiting for the KLPGA to get off their butts and do something.
Why on Earth are they waiting for the KGA to rule? This is a co-sanctioned event. They should be able to decide her punishment on their own independent of anyone else. Sheesh.
I even saw an article the other day with mild criticism of the tour for their delays. Wow, when even suck-up Korean sports writers are willing to question The Man, you know the tour is effing up.
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Post by rlspore on Aug 17, 2022 10:53:27 GMT
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Post by klpgaenglish on Aug 18, 2022 8:13:57 GMT
The punishment should be time served and get on with it. |
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 19, 2022 10:05:22 GMT
The KGA released its decision on Ina Yoon a few hours ago: three-year suspension from playing any KGA events, which in her case means just the Korea Women's Open.
That's ridiculous, of course, but I'm guessing they made it that way because anything less than that and she's likely not to get any actual suspension; she doesn't play any event where the KGA gets to flex their muscles over her until next June, and they probably didn't want to have her "get away" with being suspended for "just" one event.
Whatever, screw them.
The real concern is what the KLPGA will decide; that comes next. They better not make it anywhere close to equivalent.
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Post by HappyFan on Aug 22, 2022 17:06:21 GMT
This latest article is now an attempt by the Korean media to argue that Yoon has no option to go overseas to play because the overseas tours are stricter on cheating. And that the KLPGA is "being watched" and "judged" by how they handle this. To the degree that they are being watched (which is very little), most of what they have done so far will be judged very poorly. Latest on Ina YoonIt really sounds like they are trying to bury this kid, but I GUARANTEE you that the LPGA or any other tour is not going to block her from coming over because of this. Sorry, guys, your petty rules crap isn't going to ruin her career no matter how much you hope it will. Everything in this article is nonsense. It's so irritating. Are these guys that far up their own butts? "It's worse than Bio Kim (the finger flipper) because her caddie and parents knew". Why does that matter? If anything, it should be a mitigating circumstance, unless you think a 19-year-old girl really has the freedom to stand up to what her dad tells her to do? In Korea? LOL, yeah... right. Sure thing, dude. And all this nonsense about how it was a 'cover up' because she didn't come forward for a month. Bah. If you break the rules, OF COURSE you don't come forward; that's what 'breaking the rules' is. If she had come forward in time, it would not have been a thing. Duh. These guys get paid to write this.  P.S. I read another article where they said that caddies estimate that "up to 40%" of pro golfers have skirted the rules at one point. They don't even see the problem with their overreaction towards Yoon given that statistic? The conclusion was that they should be harsher to her because of this fact. Or maybe, you should me fairer, accept the fact that there is cheating, and come up with a way to better referee tournaments so that this doesn't happen? |
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Post by SoYeonFan on Aug 22, 2022 20:00:11 GMT
I have tried to stay away from this but Ina knew she broke the rule.
If she had admitted it the same day, a DQ and it's a done deal.
But she didn't come forward until after a month.
So why should the KLPGA look the other way because she is young, she isn't ten years old.
Of course the Media are going to speculate about it because it's news.
It's what they get paid to do.
I love Ina Yoon she is a wonderful young golfer.
However playing the wrong ball Rule applies to all the Tours not just the KLPGA.
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