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Post by HappyFan on Jul 25, 2022 16:14:45 GMT
A major development in the career of the budding superstar Ina Yoon. Wow. This might explain why she made her Instagram private. There is a controversy concerning one of her drives that went into the woods. This article gives the detailsBasically, she hit a ball out of the woods during the first round of the Korea Women's Open, and when she got to the green, she realized it was not hers but played it anyways. Her excuse was that she had never had that happen before and wasn't sure what she should do. She ended up missing the cut anyways. She fully admits she did it and that she was wrong and will accept any punishment she receives without argument. She has withdrawn from the rest of the KLPGA season (!!!) according to the article. I read another article in Korean which claimed that she was withdrawing from the next KLPGA event and 'temporarily suspending' her season; I wonder if the "whole season" thing is something that happened later, or if one or both of the articles is wrong. Regardless, what a shame. This could be a devastating blow to her career, and I hope she can recover and continue her growth whenever she resumes playing. She should of course be punished (she already has been retroactively DQed from the Open), but IMO unless this is shown to be a pattern of behavior, she should not be given a sentence that might effectively ruin her career. [EDIT]: Another article claims she has also stopped all interviews, commercial shoots and other career activities for the time being. That article claimed that Ina "does not know at this time" when she will return to the KLPGA. |
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Post by SoYeonFan on Jul 25, 2022 19:12:28 GMT
That's really is tough on the young golfer.
I wonder if Hite hires an experienced Caddy when they sign these new golfers.
Or did her Managers have to go out and find one.
Because an experienced Caddy should have her back and not let that happen.
Not making excuses for her just wondering.
On the other hand it was on her to ask him if she wasn't sure.
I know she is embarrassed but take the punishments and keep playing.
I really hope she return soon and put that behind her.
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Post by legitimategolf on Jul 25, 2022 19:13:17 GMT
Golf doesn't handle rule-breaking very well. It's time to evolve in the direction of other sports and stop making high-minded assumptions about people's intentions. Just assume the worst, dole out the appropriate penalties and move on with life. In all the other ball sports, players certainly don't self-officiate, and they actually strive to get away with all manner of rule-breaking, and it's fine. News flash, people are not always honest, and that's precisely what rules and penalties are for. Otherwise you could never get any kind of game going, ever. Not saying anything about Ina Yoon by the way, I just hate the weeping and gnashing of teeth that accompanies such incidents.
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 25, 2022 21:06:40 GMT
Yeah, think of all the basketball players who flop in order to draw fake fouls on their opponents. Basically, they are hoping to get away with something shady, and they do it ALL THE TIME. None of them get suspended, etc.
As I said, she should get some kind of small but significant penalty/fine/suspension, serve it out, and move on with her life. Hopefully she'll learn a lesson, and this won't ever happen again. But I worry that she'll be winning some big tournament ten years from now and there will still be some hack in the audience jeering her and calling her a cheater. To my mind, that would be out of scope with the crime, which, as we said, was at an event where she was already so far off the cut that she was never going to factor into the result (that was the time she made an 11 on her first hole, remember?).
Of course, if there's more to it than one incident, the punishment should be harsher. But I've not heard anything to indicate that as of yet.
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 25, 2022 21:17:35 GMT
The rumor in some reader comments on Korean articles (not substantiated) is that she fired her caddie and he decided to rat her out (perhaps even threatening her with that if she fired him?). But she sent an email before he could do that to fess up. If this is true (again, just blather in some article comments in Korea as far as I know), this says a few things:
1. There probably wasn't more than one incident, or the caddie would have mentioned those, too.
2. She kept it quiet until she knew she was going to be outed. But then again, she didn't have much motivation to tell anyone once the tournament passed.
I'm sure there will be more details in Ina-gate in the next few days; it's already the subject of the top three most-read articles in Daum golf.
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Post by klpgaenglish on Jul 25, 2022 23:57:47 GMT
The Open is a kga event. I don't know how connected to the KLPGA it is. Perhaps the KLPGA is not entirely in a position to punish her.
She should immediately get help and support to move on and get back to playing because the media and fan reaction is a problem. A strong forceful message from the KLPGA explaining the rules and punishment AND clear message encouraging her to enter such and such event would help. Take the heat off her.
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Post by philknj on Jul 26, 2022 0:21:35 GMT
A small fine is okay be me ... a suspension (voluntary or not) of any length would be ludicrous and unjust. But, keep it up Internet trolls ... you'll drive her right into LPGA Q-school ... can't wait to see her try to drive the 5th green at the Seaview, along with a few other UFOs.
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Post by klpgaenglish on Jul 26, 2022 6:49:09 GMT
I think someone voiced it right when they said the online trolls will push her to the LPGA Q-Series.
The KLPGA needs to be quick and decisive to deal with this. Since when has a Korean org ever been quick and decisive? Along with reasonable punishment the KLPGA should immediately get front of the problem by announcing the next tournament she will be eligible to play and voicing support for her to be there. The KLPGA doesn't need to do much. A press release or two should be enough.
Onto another issue....
INA was not alone on the course actually. Didn't the group members sign the cards at the end of the round verifying YOON INA's score? Did they sign a faulty score?
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 26, 2022 10:19:33 GMT
As I read more of this self-serving, sanctimonious swill on the Korean Internet (now the top SEVEN most read golf articles have to do with this), I'm becoming more convinced that these "protectors of the game" are a bunch of sad control freaks who are doing more damage to the game than Ina and her mis-hit ball ever will. Congrats, guys, you turned me around on this!
Look at the article quoted above: the Management company 'didn't know' about the infraction and 'reported it immediately' when they found out. Suuuuure they did. That story is accepted without hesitation. But then the writer criticizes her for continuing to compete at the current event she was contending in because of the month-old incident. So, she should have just immediately quit that event? Why? I've seen this argument in several articles: that her crime was so grave that she should immediately have punished herself by ceasing all golf. Give me a break. They're trying really hard to expand this from one known (and admitted) infraction into non-stop rule-breaking. It's pathetic.
Notice that he even suggests that it was the Management company, not Yoon, who initiated the apology, giving her no credit for a positive act. I don't believe that for one minute. This article smacks of an attempt to build up the official organizations at the expense of a young woman. It's easier to throw her under the bus than question the systemic issues. And it gets more clicks, too.
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Post by klpgaenglish on Jul 26, 2022 20:47:30 GMT
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 27, 2022 17:15:38 GMT
This is getting all sorts of silly. Here's a passage from one article: This is absurd. Why not just call into question the events she played before the "crime" as well? I mean, she played the Evercollagen without doing anything wrong (and if they think she did, PROVE it), so the mere taint of rule breaking means they can take that away? If the KLPGA pulls that stunt and cancels her win, I will stop following them. End of the line for them. Fortunately, this writer is an idiot and that is unlikely. Another article said they might give her the same penalty that they gave that dude who flipped off a gallery member: 3-year expulsion. He wrote that as if he is totally unaware that EVERYONE thought that that was a ridiculous overreaction. I really don't care what the KGA does; she doesn't need to play their stupid annual championship. But the KLPGA can ruin her career. My questions: - Why is this taking so long? The KLPGA really doesn't have processes in place for this? Talk about bush league. This should have been settled 72 hours after it was revealed. - They're talking about having a 'special panel' to look into this. Why? Overkill. I'm already envisioning a televised show trial where she has to look contrite while old men berate her. Not a good look. - The KLPGA has not to my knowledge released a single word defending their member Ina Yoon. Not even an 'innocent until proven guilty' comment. They need to be there to help her. If not, I would like to see a vet with some pull make a statement to derail this nonsense. How awesome would it be if Se Ri commented in the press, telling them to cut it out and treat her fairly? Try to get around that, KLPGA! - The KLPGA needs a players' organization like the LPGA has to represent for the players. I don't think they have one. When Thompson was in this position, she not only was not suspended, the LPGA changed the rules to make it easier for her to mis-mark her ball. - The Korean media is a bunch of suck ups to the power structure. Not a single article talking about the impact on HER. They were glad to ride her popularity to article views for themselves, but it shows just how little they care about these athletes that they turn on them so quickly. One other thought: if this went down as she said and she did not realize that she had hit the wrong ball until she reached the green, let's say she followed the rules at that point. She takes a penalty, goes back to the tee, hits again, and the group has to wait another ten minutes. Ina is going to miss the cut, but the other two players, Da Som Ma and Seo Yeon Kwon, would have potentially had to deal with slow play issues the rest of the day. So, she actually HELPED those players by not doing that. Yes, this is an absurd defense, but it's also true.  |
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Post by SoYeonFan on Jul 27, 2022 18:04:17 GMT
HappyFan you are thrashing the KLPGA because Ina Yoon is one of your favorite players.
Ina is also one of my favorite players, also the KLPGA is my favorite Tour.
This is a situation that they haven't had to deal with in awhile so they are trying to get it right.
There have been times that a player had to go back and hit from the spot of the previous location.
While doing that the other players went ahead and finished the hole, so slow play shouldn't be an issue.
Ina Yoon broke the rules and kept it secret until her caddy revealed it.
So you are saying you will quit the KLPGA if you don't like her punishment.
That's a little over reaction isn't it.
I took down my post because I thought it wasn't needed anymore.
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Post by philknj on Jul 27, 2022 23:41:25 GMT
Ina Yoon is not in the field for the Samdasoo Masters.  How is her English? How is her Japanese? I think you know what I'm referring to. BTW, she's #67 on the Rolex Rankings, so I assume she'll still be in the top-75 by August 8, which would get her into the LPGA Q-Series in December ... I hope her worthless management company will follow through on this. |
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Post by SoYeonFan on Jul 28, 2022 1:56:53 GMT
Why is the KLPGA being made the bad guy here. That rule is the same on all the Tours not just the KLPGA.
That if you don't find your ball in the allotted time you have to go back and replay it as near as possible to your previous shot.
In Ina case it was the tee box. I am not trying to give a lesson on the rules just stating them.
Beside to keep play going they drive the player back to the spot
I am sure the KLPGA didn't want this to happen because Ina is really popular and attract a lot of fans to the Tour.
However I wish they treat this the same as if it was Julie Kim and not Ina Yoon.
I know she is a young Golfer and may have been confused about what to do.
But there were two other golfers and three caddies that she could have asked about the rule.
Ok, the two other Caddies not hers because he should have helped her identify the ball before she hit it.
Or to make sure of the right decision what she could have done was call in an Official.
But there is one Rule that I wish they would change, is to disqualify a player who sign a wrong score card.
If they correct it before teeing off the next round give them a two stroke penalty, instead of a DQ.
It happened to my third favorite golfer, Hee Jeong Lim but what could I say rules are rules.
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Post by klpgaenglish on Jul 28, 2022 2:54:40 GMT
This is where the KLPGA should be forceful and issue strong press releases clearly stating the rules and that the fans are not following the rules.
As such, if the fools online want to make the KLPGA the criminal here the KLPGA should accept the moniker and double down on the rules. I think it's not bad or wrong for the tour to "take the heat" to defend their rules and members.
The KLPGA should be clear that Yoon Ina is welcome back on tour and let Yoon Ina and her management make their own decisions.
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How is her English? How is her Japanese? I think you know what I'm referring to. BTW, she's #67 on the Rolex Rankings, so I assume she'll still be in the top-75 by August 8, which would get her into the LPGA Q-Series in December ... I hope her worthless management company will follow through on this.