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Post by don on Sept 14, 2020 11:03:58 GMT
Brooke never even had to find her ball since they were certain it was under the immovable obstruction.
I think it would be like if your ball bounced into a dumpster.
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Post by jumpcut on Sept 14, 2020 11:43:26 GMT
T37. If you asked me last Wednesday where I thought she might end up, I'd say that sounds about right. Not a good day but she did eagle 18, just like Mirim. I know my KT posts were insufferable this week, but it's not often that any of my obscure picks do anything notable. Kelly's hard work has taken her out of that category. In the meantime, Solar Lee is in the field at the Descente Ladies Tokai Classic this week!! pargolf.my/2020/09/14/malaysians-on-tour-kelly-tan-finishes-t37-at-ana-inspiration-ainil-bakar-misses-out-on-weekend-in-switzerland/Kelly Tan settled for a T37 finish in the ANA Inspiration with a one-under-par 287 total at Mission Hills Country Club in Rancho Mirage, California.
It was a rather disappointing finish for the Malaysian No 1, as she had started the tournament well with rounds of 68 and 70. However, scores of 74 and 75 over the weekend saw her drop down the leaderboard and fail to better her best Major finish of T31 in the same event four years ago.
The tournament was won by Korea’s Mirim Lee in a playoff over American Nelly Korda and Canada’s Brooke Henderson after the three players had finished 72 holes tied on 15-under-par.
Kelly’s next tournament is the Cambia Portland Classic which takes place this week at Columbia Edgewater Country Club in Portland, Oregon
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Post by SoYeonFan on Sept 14, 2020 15:15:20 GMT
Here's a surprise: Mirim Lee's coach is none other than Song Hee Kim. Long time fans will recall Kim as a big up and comer about ten years ago who, after a promising start to her LPGA career, completely disappeared. She's out of playing now, but will probably have a few calls on her voicemail from interested players looking for a new coach! I remember Song Hee Kim, a great Amateur Career and a top ten machine. Her last Tournament in contention she hit a ball in the water on two different holes. That seemed to start her down fall, of not contending after that. Edit: I think it was the Tournament that Jimin Kang won.
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Post by HappyFan on Sept 14, 2020 17:17:53 GMT
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Post by HappyFan on Sept 14, 2020 17:24:28 GMT
Brooke never even had to find her ball since they were certain it was under the immovable obstruction. I think it would be like if your ball bounced into a dumpster. Help me to understand, I'm a bit vague on these rules: a lost ball penalty usually requires playing again from where you last hit? If your ball bounced into a dumpster, you would get assessed a normal penalty stroke, right? Even if they don't consider it lost? She not only did not get a lost ball penalty, she got no penalty at all. That seems weird to me.
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Post by SoYeonFan on Sept 14, 2020 18:04:24 GMT
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Post by don on Sept 14, 2020 18:51:57 GMT
I think it's this one....(Abnormal Course Conditions include immovable obstructions.) www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/rules-of-golf/rule-16.html 16e. Relief for Ball Not Found but in or on Abnormal Course Condition If a player’s ball has not been found and it is known or virtually certain that the ball came to rest in or on an abnormal course condition on the course, the player may use this relief option instead of taking stroke-and-distance relief: The player may take relief under Rule 16.1b, c or d, using the estimated point where the ball last crossed the edge of the abnormal course condition on the course as the spot of the ball for purposes of finding the nearest point of complete relief. Once the player puts another ball in play to take relief in this way: The original ball is no longer in play and must not be played. This is true even if it is then found on the course before the end of the three-minute search time (see Rule 6.3b) But if it is not known or virtually certain that the ball came to rest in or on an abnormal course condition and the ball is lost, the player must take stroke-and-distance relief under Rule 18.2.
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Post by HappyFan on Sept 14, 2020 22:17:49 GMT
Then why did they spend so much time looking for the ball? They could have saved a lot of time by clarifying that this rule applied in the case of a lost ball that probably went under the stands.
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Post by don on Sept 15, 2020 1:12:35 GMT
Then why did they spend so much time looking for the ball? They could have saved a lot of time by clarifying that this rule applied in the case of a lost ball that probably went under the stands. To ice Nelly.
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Post by HappyFan on Sept 15, 2020 16:47:16 GMT
Then why did they spend so much time looking for the ball? They could have saved a lot of time by clarifying that this rule applied in the case of a lost ball that probably went under the stands. To ice Nelly. Ah, so long as it was for a good reason...
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Post by HappyFan on Sept 15, 2020 17:16:56 GMT
So a day after the win, the mindset of the GIC has become clear. They are going to focus on the wall and use it as a scapegoat for the result they didn't want. The not-so-implicit end result has been an increase in the attitude that Mirim Lee did not legitimately win the event. Of course. Here is a perfect example. Shame on Beth Ann Nichols, who ought to know better: Wall Overshadows Dramatic FinishFirst of all, it only "overshadows" the finish because the media made a choice to focus on it. They could have gone a different way. No doubt if Korda or Henderson had won, they would have. But when yet another Korean won, and not even one of the bigger names, they took the easy way out and threw her under the bus. Heaven forbid they focus on a miraculous win by a Korean when there is something they can nitpick about it. Judy "chose" not to comment on the wall until after the event. Real gutsy move there. And of course, had Korda won, she could have "chosen" not to comment at all. Would you please retire already? Who is Mirim Lee? Why did she take up golf? Was she a city or country girl? Rich or poor? Who were her parents? What are her challenges, her injuries, her dreams? Did you know her coach was a former LPGA player (whom they probably also don't remember)? I could not find ONE article in the American press about any of that. I know more about nobody Popov, who wasn't 1/10th as accomplished as three-time winner Lee, because they actually bothered to do their research on her and wrote articles about that research. They made her "Cinderella" Storyline the focus and did the work to back it up. They seem to be getting worse, to be honest. I recall several in-depth articles about Birdie Kim back in 2005 (although there they had a PGA angle in Bob Toski, her coach). These days you're lucky if they merely credit the Korean winner without looking for a negative angle. Look at these telling lines: Ah, I would say two chip-ins in the final three holes, and a playoff won by a birdie, IS a dreamy finish. If Henderson had done that, Rankin would still be on a high about it. What could she be implying? Well: Yes, if the course had been set up differently, different things might have happened. So what? Are you SURE none of your faves didn't also benefit during the week? This could literally be said about any aspect of the setup any week at any event. So it's meaningless. And also, clearly, she would have clubbed down if the risk of overhitting was there. Who are you trying to fool? But here she really tips her hand. She imagines the excitement of a potential viewer. This is what goes through that viewer's head. Ah. Now we understand. Blonde, Blonder and Blondest. You didn't get the finish you wanted, so the wall is the reason. Grow up! /Rant
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Post by HappyFan on Sept 15, 2020 17:39:19 GMT
Note the article she wrote the day before: Long Awaited Star Studded showdownShe had her storyline in mind. It was going to be all about the Americans and Henderson. Note also how she tells us a little personal background story about each one of her chosen few. According to her, it's a "long awaited" showdown. Said as much about Karrie Webb and Ochoa as about Mirim or any other Korean. Even managed to call out Thompson's 2017 penalty 'fiasco' in the article (reinforcing another inexcusable storyline about what really happened there). But then her "dreamy" finish didn't happen, and instead of pivoting and talking about what really happened, she chose to make the story about how her dreamy finish didn't happen. Yeesh.
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Post by HappyFan on Sept 16, 2020 17:03:27 GMT
I watched Morning Drive on Golf Channel and will tip my hat to them: they were all very complimentary of Mirim and what she accomplished. One guy even said that he bet even Tiger never made three chip-ins in the final round of an event. Kudos to Robert Damron, the former PGA player, who would not bite on the wall. He said repeatedly, you play the course as it is, that's the smart thing to do, and reminded everyone of all the times a grandstand drop has happened in golf.
Meanwhile, I watched the final hole on Tivo again. Maybe I'm nuts, but it looks to me like Mirim's approach did not touch the wall; it stopped about a foot or two short. Yes, Henderson did smash her approach into the wall, but Mirim did not. Now, possibly she wouldn't have even tried to go for it in two without the wall there, but she certainly didn't get an assist from it.
This clip cuts away just before the ball stops rolling, but in the full broadcast, the ball comes to a dead stop right at that spot a half second later.
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Post by HappyFan on Sept 16, 2020 17:36:57 GMT
SBS Golf Channel posted two golf lessons from Mirim Lee dating back to 2012, right after she won the Korea Women's Open. Cool to see the latest Major champion at the start of her career!
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Post by rlspore on Sept 17, 2020 13:21:42 GMT
Meanwhile, I watched the final hole on Tivo again. Maybe I'm nuts, but it looks to me like Mirim's approach did not touch the wall; it stopped about a foot or two short. Yes, Henderson did smash her approach into the wall, but Mirim did not. Now, possibly she wouldn't have even tried to go for it in two without the wall there, but she certainly didn't get an assist from it. This clip cuts away just before the ball stops rolling, but in the full broadcast, the ball comes to a dead stop right at that spot a half second later. In this clip, the ball clearly does hit the wall. After the second bounce it hits the wall and ricochets back off to the right and rolls to a stop. Watch it a few more times. But nevertheless - that was a smart play.
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