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Post by SoYeonFan on May 11, 2015 19:48:33 GMT
I still can't believe that the Golf Channel can only allow two hours for LPGA broadcasts. They are just stealing money from the LPGA. There are so many useless programs that they can bump. To me they are saying " you don't matter", but I will take your money anyway.
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Post by mr3putt on May 13, 2015 0:54:26 GMT
Mika Miyazato, Beatriz Recari, and Mo Martin have all been removed from the field list! Mo was pictured practicing today and on the pairing list with The Rocket & The Hulk.
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Post by centurion on May 13, 2015 19:59:15 GMT
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Post by SoYeonFan on May 13, 2015 21:33:14 GMT
Must be nice to get a lot of "Sponsor Invites" to maybe bypass Q-School. While people that was long time members of the LPGA, are stuck on the ..Alternate List.
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Post by HappyFan on May 14, 2015 6:30:15 GMT
Must be nice to get a lot of "Sponsor Invites" to maybe bypass Q-School. While people that was long time members of the LPGA, are stuck on the ..Alternate List. If the player is a future star and a big attraction, it is good for the game. Henderson is exciting. Nobody complained when Lydia was getting them. She gets one top ten and immediately is given THREE sponsors exemptions, including to a Major. Even Ko never got treated like that; Hyo Joo Kim certainly didn't when she nearly won the Evian at 16, a year younger than Henderson. Personally, I think it is too easy to get into a field without having a tour card these days. Too many sponsors exemptions in a season. I think they should value a tour card more than that. A player who earns a card the hard way and spends all season trying to support the tour deserves to be in more fields than a non member, even if the player is 'exciting'. And if that player is underage as per LPGA rules, it's even more egregious. She can't become a member, but she can be exploited to the tune of 9 - 10 events in a season? That's crazy. If you're not old enough to play full time, why is it better to allow them to play 1/3 of the events (plus however many more they try to Monday qualify for?) How is that less exploitative?
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Post by arthur on May 14, 2015 16:25:16 GMT
If the player is a future star and a big attraction, it is good for the game. Henderson is exciting. Nobody complained when Lydia was getting them. She gets one top ten and immediately is given THREE sponsors exemptions, including to a Major. Even Ko never got treated like that; Hyo Joo Kim certainly didn't when she nearly won the Evian at 16, a year younger than Henderson. Personally, I think it is too easy to get into a field without having a tour card these days. Too many sponsors exemptions in a season. I think they should value a tour card more than that. A player who earns a card the hard way and spends all season trying to support the tour deserves to be in more fields than a non member, even if the player is 'exciting'. And if that player is underage as per LPGA rules, it's even more egregious. She can't become a member, but she can be exploited to the tune of 9 - 10 events in a season? That's crazy. If you're not old enough to play full time, why is it better to allow them to play 1/3 of the events (plus however many more they try to Monday qualify for?) How is that less exploitative? You are only allowed 6 LPGA exemptions. You need around ~400K to qualify for the LPGA top 40 as a non member. It is unlikely Brooke will do this unless she gets a couple more top 3 positions. Playing in 3 majors will help as there is more prize money (she qualified for US open with her top 10 last year, and somehow also qualified for the british open). If she does she definitely deserves her card more than players who qualified for 35 events and couldn't make the top 100. Typically their are only 2 sponsor invites which in a full field event is only bumping people who weren't even top 20 in Q school. A sponsor invite for a non-full field event without a cut is useless for LPGA qualifying as the money won't count for membership. Also Lydia Ko could/did max her exemptions. Hyo Joo Kim could have easily had more sponsor exemptions but she didn't as she preferred to play in Korea. Players like Brooke bring more people to watch so it is very worthwhile for the sponsor and LPGA to have her play in tournaments. I am a bit biased for Brooke though as a Canadian.
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Post by centurion on May 14, 2015 16:40:57 GMT
Jordan Spieth got a sponsor's exemption at the Byron Nelson when he was 16. His strong finish allowed for other tournaments to give him exemptions. In his first year as a pro, he had no status, but used those exemptions to win the John Deere.
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Post by SoYeonFan on May 14, 2015 17:31:52 GMT
Why exactly is she a future attraction? OH never mind.
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Post by HappyFan on May 14, 2015 23:50:04 GMT
Why exactly is she a future attraction? OH never mind. Brooke was the number one ametuer in the world when she turned pro. Ah come on, you know what he's implying... Are you saying that every former world #1 amateur gets sponsor's exemptions thrown at them?
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Post by HappyFan on May 15, 2015 0:14:54 GMT
She gets one top ten and immediately is given THREE sponsors exemptions, including to a Major. Even Ko never got treated like that; Hyo Joo Kim certainly didn't when she nearly won the Evian at 16, a year younger than Henderson. Personally, I think it is too easy to get into a field without having a tour card these days. Too many sponsors exemptions in a season. I think they should value a tour card more than that. A player who earns a card the hard way and spends all season trying to support the tour deserves to be in more fields than a non member, even if the player is 'exciting'. And if that player is underage as per LPGA rules, it's even more egregious. She can't become a member, but she can be exploited to the tune of 9 - 10 events in a season? That's crazy. If you're not old enough to play full time, why is it better to allow them to play 1/3 of the events (plus however many more they try to Monday qualify for?) How is that less exploitative? You are only allowed 6 LPGA exemptions. You need around ~400K to qualify for the LPGA top 40 as a non member. It is unlikely Brooke will do this unless she gets a couple more top 3 positions. Playing in 3 majors will help as there is more prize money (she qualified for US open with her top 10 last year, and somehow also qualified for the british open). If she does she definitely deserves her card more than players who qualified for 35 events and couldn't make the top 100. Typically their are only 2 sponsor invites which in a full field event is only bumping people who weren't even top 20 in Q school. A sponsor invite for a non-full field event without a cut is useless for LPGA qualifying as the money won't count for membership. Also Lydia Ko could/did max her exemptions. Hyo Joo Kim could have easily had more sponsor exemptions but she didn't as she preferred to play in Korea. Players like Brooke bring more people to watch so it is very worthwhile for the sponsor and LPGA to have her play in tournaments. I am a bit biased for Brooke though as a Canadian. 6 sponsor's exemptions, plus the British, US Women's Open (they don't count as sponsors exemptions) ... does the Canadian count? Evian? Plus any events she Monday qualifies for... She should easily reach 9 or 10 events this year without a card. I'm betting that will exceed a bunch of ladies who do have cards (and she's getting Symetra Tour invites on top of those). The LPGA makes a big fuss about how anyone who is under 18 cannot join the tour. They claim this is to protect the girls from a situation they can't handle psychologically (read about Beverly Klass for details as to why). So tell me this: how is what Henderson is doing (or Ko, or Thompson, or Hyo Joo did) any better? Traveling all over the world, playing tons of events, and trying to Monday qualify. Trying to get into fields by Monday qualifying (and possibly failing) is more much potentially psychologically damaging than having a card and knowing you have a spot. Why does Whan allow these kids to be 'exploited' like that if he is so concerned? The real reason is, if he opened the tour up to all under-18 year olds, he'd be inundated with Korean teens who don't speak English. By having an age gate with a petition process, he can always claim that people like Pressel and Thompson are 'mature' enough to play, and give them cards before they turn 18, while denying Ya Ni Tseng and Inbee Park (all those things happened when those ladies were underage). Is there any unbiased human being in the world who thought Morgan 'Whatever' Pressel was more mature than Inbee back then? Please. If it were up to me, there'd be two sponsors exemptions a year (like there used to be); close Monday qualifying to non-tour members (or allow at most two attempts per year), again like it used to be; close the loophole that lets a non-winner earn a tour card (get rid of all that nonsense trying to parse which events allow you to earn qualifying money and which don't); allow ALL golfers who win events before 18 to have a tour card and no more petitions for any other kind of exception. That takes all the favoritism right out of the equation.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 20:40:26 GMT
Golf Channel and the LPGA are desperately hoping a good looking dominant non-lesbian white superstar will emerge. I don't think Pat Hurst is the answer. If Holly Sonders was a tour player, they would only need one camera per telecast. I am surprised Annika was never forced to have plastic surgery.
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Post by SoYeonFan on May 15, 2015 22:45:46 GMT
Lydia won an LPGA event. Arya won an LET event. All Brooke did was lose the USGA Women Amateur. It just seem to me is that some people believe that she is needed to add excitement to the tour, or something else. I guess hitting the golf ball all over the course is more exciting than playing excellent golf.
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Post by HappyFan on May 16, 2015 1:09:15 GMT
I never heard anyone complaining then (including me). We wanted to see her play. Also, Brooke filed to go to Q-school in 2014 and and was rejected by Michael Whan. I'm not saying the rules are fair to everyone. I'm not saying they are right. They could sure use some tweeking. But to be critical of Brooke, now, when she is just doing what Ko did in 2013 (11 events), Charley Hull did last year (10 events), and Ariya Jutanugarn did last year (9 events), isn't fair. [/quote] Well, I can't honestly recall if I talked about it all that much with Ko, but I certainly did for years before Henderson came along. I have been pretty consistent about these opinions, at least back to the point when the # of sponsors exemptions was first increased. So yeah, I think the same should apply to Lydia, Hyo Joo, Ariya, the lot of them.
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Post by HappyFan on May 16, 2015 1:15:04 GMT
Great first couple of days for So Yeon Ryu! It's about time for her to put herself into the hunt again. I hope this is the start of a nice run of top tens and maybe a few wins for her. Go So Yeon! So Yeon in round one Also cool to see Minjee Lee finally step up to the plate. I haven't seen the second day coverage yet, so I don't know if Inbee, Hyo Joo et al also made a move, but I'm hoping we can get a few more of them into the fight for the weekend. Sisters Hwaiting!!!
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Post by HappyFan on May 16, 2015 16:26:59 GMT
Solid leaderboard for the Lees, with Alison Lee, Minjee Lee on top. Great to see So Yeon Ryu planted there at 6 under; let's hope it's beer bath time for So Yeon on Sunday!!! Sei Young Kim dropped four shots in the final two holes, but that's good, cause now she can play from behind, which she apparently likes. Yeesh, it's tough hitting it in the water twice on one hole! Great seeing the Rookie profile for her, though. They brought up the Hanhwa win against So Yeon, though; even showed video. Ugh, don't remind me, that was a brutal loss for So Yeon!! Inbee and Hyo Joo are six back. Inbee doesn't tend to win when she isn't right in or near the front after two. But let's see if she can make a run up the leaderboard and make it interesting. GO SISTERS!!
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