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Post by SoYeonFan on Jul 7, 2017 22:28:09 GMT
I was only trying to defend the right of any player that earned a spot on the LPGA tour.
Should not lose that spot to some retired LPGA player.
As 3putt likes to say "any player can catch lighting in a bottle".
That opportunity should not be taken away from them.
Look at whose leading the present tournament.
She may not stay there, but she is probably assured to make a decent check.
So you can't assume that the players at the bottom wont improve.
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Post by fourwaymiss on Jul 7, 2017 22:39:54 GMT
Why do you guys make me yell at you! Hey, for once, I (or "big golf apologist" ) am on your side.  |
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Post by longballbogey on Jul 7, 2017 23:38:51 GMT
Yup, what a joke of a course. You gotta go down to 107th to fine someone at +1. Time to stop playing little league fields!!
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 7, 2017 23:48:21 GMT
Well you can argue w/ a sponsors exemption when it's demeaning like the shop rite's beauty pageant. You can argue all you want, but you have no standing and you will lose. That contest brought lots more eyes to the tournament and was an excellent promo ahead of the event. Did it? Is there any proof of that? Every one of the participants was a golfer that was capable. Were they? The woman who won the online poll had not made a cut in a tournament in over two years. I saw no evidence that anyone showed up at Seaview and paid money just to watch her play. I don't recall seeing her on TV, either, but I might have blinked and missed her. Of course we can argue all we want, and who knows, if enough people argue, they may decide not to do it again. Can't hurt. |
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Post by ponkyplayer on Jul 8, 2017 0:58:28 GMT
She is one of the best female golfers in India. She is in the position that Aditi Ashok was in a little over a year ago, trying to get started on LET or other tours.
Sorry you were not familiar with her but she is a very good golfer, and her getting into that tournament was a big deal for women's golf in India, and probably put a ton more eyes on the TV coverage, even though she didn't make much coverage. The fact that a few thousand people voted for her is not insignigicant. I suspect you will eventually know who she is like you know Aditi now.
So, yes. Every one of the 4 players were very capable golfers.
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Post by don on Jul 8, 2017 1:38:47 GMT
She is one of the best female golfers in India. She is in the position that Aditi Ashok was in a little over a year ago, trying to get started on LET or other tours. Sorry you were not familiar with her but she is a very good golfer, and her getting into that tournament was a big deal for women's golf in India, and probably put a ton more eyes on the TV coverage, even though she didn't make much coverage. The fact that a few thousand people voted for her is not insignigicant. I suspect you will eventually know who she is like you know Aditi now. So, yes. Every one of the 4 players were very capable golfers. It's as likely that normally looking ppl saw that a model got invited and decided this "sport" is b*llshit. |
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Post by mnmlistgolfr on Jul 8, 2017 1:41:55 GMT
She is one of the best female golfers in India. She is in the position that Aditi Ashok was in a little over a year ago, trying to get started on LET or other tours. Sorry you were not familiar with her but she is a very good golfer, and her getting into that tournament was a big deal for women's golf in India, and probably put a ton more eyes on the TV coverage, even though she didn't make much coverage. The fact that a few thousand people voted for her is not insignigicant. I suspect you will eventually know who she is like you know Aditi now. So, yes. Every one of the 4 players were very capable golfers. Perhaps you can explain how Nicollet does not appear in the Rolex Rankings, because I have no idea. Thanks. |
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Post by ponkyplayer on Jul 8, 2017 2:28:15 GMT
If she doesn't, I presume you are aware that a number of players in every LPGA tournament do not have a Rolex ranking. Quite a few in the KPMG.
All of this is beside the point, however, because if Shop Rite wanted to put a talented local high school girl into their tournament using their sponsor exemption it is perfectly proper. This does not take any spot away from anyone else by the definition of a sponsors exemption.
Also happens that Nicollet shot one stroke different than last year's the #1 player on the LET in the ShopRite tournament first 2 rounds. She was also the #1 player in the tour she played in India for a couple years.
Argue all you want. She was a capable golfer, and ShopRite can put anyone in the spot they want.
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Post by mnmlistgolfr on Jul 8, 2017 2:47:32 GMT
If she doesn't, I presume you are aware that a number of players in every LPGA tournament do not have a Rolex ranking. Quite a few in the KPMG. All of this is beside the point, however, because if Shop Rite wanted to put a talented local high school girl into their tournament using their sponsor exemption it is perfectly proper. This does not take any spot away from anyone else by the definition of a sponsors exemption. Also happens that Nicollet shot one stroke different than last year's the #1 player on the LET in the ShopRite tournament first 2 rounds. She was also the #1 player in the tour she played in India for a couple years. Argue all you want. She was a capable golfer, and ShopRite can put anyone in the spot they want. Are you talking about the few amateurs that play in LPGA tournaments? Of course they don't have a Rolex Ranking, they're amateurs. Are you talking about the club professionals that played in the KPMG? Of course they don't have a Rolex Ranking, they're not touring pros. I'm not arguing. You seem to know quite a bit about Sharmila. It came up in the ShopRite thread and no one could figure out how she is unranked. |
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Post by mr3putt on Jul 8, 2017 3:41:31 GMT
Are you talking about the few amateurs that play in LPGA tournaments? Of course they don't have a Rolex Ranking, they're amateurs. Some Am's are in the Rolex Rankings. CYBORG is #60...JUNIOR is #185. If I recall correctly....Lydia was in the RR's as an Am. On WAGR...they still use Lydia's pic....LMAO....I guess the RR isn't run by Yanks...no pic of Brooke. CYBORG is so much better than Maguire but only #2 WAGR ranked....CYBORG's divisor is killing her. And although Naomi Ko (Canadian Am) does not show up in RR...I think she could easily be higher ranked and beat quite handily, the now retired Jessica Wallace at #591 |
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Post by sludge on Jul 8, 2017 16:59:41 GMT
Woon Jung "Chella" Choi (Jack Nicklaus has stated that he has never marked his ball incorrectly in his entire career.) Nice DIG at Cheatin Chella....Happyfan won't be happy with your post. It was an open and shut case. The ball has to go exactly where it was. Happyfan thought In Bee Park had a RIGHT to play on the big tour when she was underage. |
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 8, 2017 17:05:20 GMT
If she doesn't, I presume you are aware that a number of players in every LPGA tournament do not have a Rolex ranking. Quite a few in the KPMG. All of this is beside the point, however, because if Shop Rite wanted to put a talented local high school girl into their tournament using their sponsor exemption it is perfectly proper. This does not take any spot away from anyone else by the definition of a sponsors exemption. Also happens that Nicollet shot one stroke different than last year's the #1 player on the LET in the ShopRite tournament first 2 rounds. She was also the #1 player in the tour she played in India for a couple years. Argue all you want. She was a capable golfer, and ShopRite can put anyone in the spot they want. Are you talking about the few amateurs that play in LPGA tournaments? Of course they don't have a Rolex Ranking, they're amateurs. Are you talking about the club professionals that played in the KPMG? Of course they don't have a Rolex Ranking, they're not touring pros. I'm not arguing. You seem to know quite a bit about Sharmila. It came up in the ShopRite thread and no one could figure out how she is unranked. I don't mean to gang up on you, but how do you know she is a capable golfer? No made cuts in two years on any major tour does not sound capable. Is there some other record of her somewhere that shows otherwise? And even if so, there were roughly 1200 women golfers more capable of being in the field that were not given the opportunity. And how do you know that it had a beneficial effect on the tournament? I have seen no ratings evidence of an improvement, no attendance records that show that, and no anecdotal evidence, either. A lot of people voting doesn't mean anything if it doesn't translate into dollars for the event. Meanwhile, what is inarguable is that it is insulting to the women who earned their ways on tour to have what amounted to a beauty contest to determine a spot in the field. If there had been even one golfer in that list who wasn't there because of her looks (sorry, "Q rating"), I would be more understanding. You are being flip if you think Nicollet would have been invited if she looked like Smriti Mehra, once upon a time the best Indian golfer. I imagine a strong WEB.COM golfer would feel the same if a PGA sponsor offered a spot to an Instagram "star" who posted underwear photos while hitting bunker shots. |
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Post by HappyFan on Jul 8, 2017 17:15:27 GMT
Nice DIG at Cheatin Chella....Happyfan won't be happy with your post. It was an open and shut case. The ball has to go exactly where it was. Happyfan thought In Bee Park had a RIGHT to play on the big tour when she was underage. I never said that. Please do find the place where I did??? What I said was, I dislike the notion of allowing underage players to join the tour at the whim of the commissioner. What happens is that players like Creamer and Pressel get thumbs up, while Ya Ni and Inbee got thumbs down. And there is no framework to understand why, because it is purely arbitrary. Except, gee, it seems like Americans get approved far more often. I feel like either: 1. Lower the age to, say, 16, but no exceptions below that (but they won't do that because most of those young players trying to join will be Asian) OR 2. Have a set list of qualifications for any underage player so that, if she surpasses those, she can go to Q-School. You can make it as tough as you want, as long as it's applied equally. As for Chella Choi "cheating", what I object to is that one instance of her breaking the rules does not mean she did it habitually. I say the same thing about Thompson, by the way. I'm all for her being punished for it. And I'm still not convinced she gained anything by what she did anyway. So no, I will not call her that offensive nickname. |
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Post by mr3putt on Jul 8, 2017 17:45:47 GMT
1) I don't mean to gang up on you, but how do you know she is a capable golfer? No made cuts in two years on any major tour does not sound capable. Is there some other record of her somewhere that shows otherwise? And even if so, there were roughly 1200 women golfers more capable of being in the field that were not given the opportunity. 2) And how do you know that it had a beneficial effect on the tournament? I have seen no ratings evidence of an improvement, no attendance records that show that, and no anecdotal evidence, either. A lot of people voting doesn't mean anything if it doesn't translate into dollars for the event. 3) Meanwhile, what is inarguable is that it is insulting to the women who earned their ways on tour to have what amounted to a beauty contest to determine a spot in the field. If there had been even one golfer in that list who wasn't there because of her looks (sorry, "Q rating"), I would be more understanding. You are being flip if you think Nicollet would have been invited if she looked like Smriti Mehra, once upon a time the best Indian golfer. 4) I imagine a strong WEB.COM golfer would feel the same if a PGA sponsor offered a spot to an Instagram "star" who posted underwear photos while hitting bunker shots. 1) The guy said "capable"....not great, good or even a Shoprite event contender. In my books...a 'capable' golfer means they are competent golfers, low single handicaps and likely not going to embarrass themselves....Sharmila didn't embarrass herself...she shot 76/78. I believe all 4 golfers in the contest are all low single digit caps....likely no higher than 2.....maybe 3 tops. 2) The contest didn't drive huge exposure...but it would have provided Shoprite better exposure if they simply invited the NJ Women's State Am champ. IMO...only 2 people have really influenced exposure in the game of golf...GOAT #2 and Se Ri to the people of S. Korea. 3) The common denominator of all 4 contestants....all are attractive ladies. The contest was simply a popularity and beauty contest....LOOKS MATTER in life...it's just that simple....people who don't think so .....are either UGLY or FAT or BOTH. 4) Steph Curry was given a sponsor invite to a Web.com event...is he deserving?...doesn't matter...it's the sponsor's money. Is he a capable golfer...I think so...he's supposedly a 2 cap...will he contend...no....will he make the cut...likely no....he's probably giving up 5-6 shots a rd to the Web.com pros. |
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Post by mr3putt on Jul 8, 2017 17:50:50 GMT
Happyfan thought In Bee Park had a RIGHT to play on the big tour when she was underage. Sludge...you only have 25 posts....yet you know about Happyfan's whining about all the injustices dished up to the Koreans...you must be a long time lurker on this site...KUDOS! Oh ya...welcome! |
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