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Post by fourwaymiss on Nov 21, 2016 20:12:49 GMT
Typical dumb interviewing by Kratzert...instead of asking direct simple questions of Ariya, he makes speeches. Good save by Charley... Kratzert: "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah" Ariya 51: "What's the question?" Charley: "Just say how you feel." I think Charley actually said "Just say you are happy", which is even better. Charley is just COOL. If Ariya is the most exciting playing in women's golf, then Charley is the coolest. IMO, she is the only person who can hold her head high after the debacle at Solheim last year. For all the crap that Suzann put her thru, she is the only one who didn't throw anyone under bus. It's interesting that no one was on the 18th green to give her the spray, not even her Solheim Cup teammates. My guess is she doesn't like to mingle. She just flies in and out to tournaments from England.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 20:17:51 GMT
Ko needs to be emancipated from her dopey parents. Send them back to New Zealand so they can scam some more money from the government and leave poor Lydia alone.
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Post by argonne69 on Nov 21, 2016 21:31:19 GMT
I've been following the LPGA for 8 to 10 years now. Honest question, does Ingee's scoring record by a rookie need an asterisk next to it? I know that these women are talented, but it does seem that the courses are set up for scoring. I mean, a 212 yard par 4 the other day? There were several tournaments with winning scores greater than 20 under, and a handful more in the upper teens. I know it's hard to compare numbers between different eras, but I'm curious.
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Post by argonne69 on Nov 21, 2016 21:46:52 GMT
I've been following the LPGA for 8 to 10 years now. Honest question, does Ingee's scoring record by a rookie need an asterisk next to it? I know that these women are talented, but it does seem that the courses are set up for scoring. I mean, a 212 yard par 4 the other day? There were several tournaments with winning scores greater than 20 under, and a handful more in the upper teens. I know it's hard to compare numbers between different eras, but I'm curious. Hell no!!! There are always going to be changes in courses. There will be more in the future. Everyone played the same courses. Her scoring average was better than Lydia's or Ariya's. Asterisk? No way! I mean compared to Nancy Lopez, not Lydia or Ariya. Were the 70's courses set up for scoring, or were they tougher? During the broadcast yesterday they mentioned that 5 players averaged below 70 this year. In addition, 67 players have averaged below 72.0 this season.
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Post by 18majors on Nov 21, 2016 22:04:23 GMT
news.joins.com/article/20906538This Korean article reported the difference of 0.013 between In Gee and Lydia was the second smallest in history; Beth Daniel (70.904) beat Laura Davies (70.909) by 0.005 in 1994. Lydia averaged 70.079 in her rookie season in 2014; this is the record In Gee (69.583) broke. By the way, In Gee's average is the eighth lowest in LPGA history; Annika's average of 68.70 in 2002 is the only under 69.00 average ever recorded.
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Post by 18majors on Nov 21, 2016 22:48:36 GMT
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Post by SoYeonFan on Nov 21, 2016 23:32:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 0:23:13 GMT
I think it is great that IGC has no idea what Nancy Lopez did or even who she is. In 30 years nobody will know Se Ri either. That's how it should be.
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Post by 18majors on Nov 22, 2016 0:37:00 GMT
I think it is great that IGC has no idea what Nancy Lopez did or even who she is. In 30 years nobody will know Se Ri either. That's how it should be. Nancy Lopez won her last tournament in 1997; the year before Se Ri arrived at LPGA. However, In Gee's manager, Kylie Pratt, clearly didn't do her job; she didn't provide relevant information to In Gee.
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Post by bangkokbobby on Nov 22, 2016 1:06:36 GMT
Dottie speaks: www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/18098616/the-good-bad-ugly-lpga-tour-2016-seasonInteresting, did you guys talk here about players demanding one par 5 being reachable by everybody? part of her article: The Ugly
1. Hands off, players. Only one and this one came to my attention last week in Naples, Florida, while walking the course on Friday morning and questioning an LPGA official about why the par-5 17th hole was only 485 yards.
Watching the telecast the day prior, I had noticed nearly every player had been able to reach the green in two shots and Jutanugarn even reached it with just two irons. The official's explanation was this: they are trying to create some drama toward the end of the round, but there is also a committee of players who have passed along the directive that at least one par-5 be reachable for everyone each day.
I totally get the drama part, but the latter? Really? Players dictating setup philosophy? Now while the CME is not a major championship, it is clearly one of the most important events on the LPGA schedule and the players are telling the officials how to set up the course?
While I applaud the players for taking ownership of their tour, what do they really know about set up and bringing architectural features (plus strategy into play on various holes two of which were virtually eliminated on this particular hole) or the setup of an equitable competition? Many don't even know the rules!
Further exacerbating Saturday's setup where the par-5 sixth hole was reachable by most, in addition to No. 17, was the par-4 13th being moved up from 350 yards to 212. (No, that was not a typo.) The golf course overall played at less than 6,300 yards for the third round. As best as TV could tell, only one player even used a driver on the 13th!
Imagine other sports doing this: We're going to use a shorter rim in the NBA Finals for the shorter team if they are trailing in the final minutes; the ninth player in the lineup in the World Series gets to use an aluminum bat; the final row of Indianapolis 500 qualifiers get to use a bigger engine; if a player is trailing after two sets at Wimbledon, they get to use the margins of both the singles and doubles court.
This was more like a made-for-TV celebrity ski "competition" or a net handicap tournament. The LPGA has terrific officials. Hand off this particular wheel, players, and let them do their jobs.
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Post by 18majors on Nov 22, 2016 2:27:45 GMT
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Post by 18majors on Nov 22, 2016 2:36:15 GMT
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Post by HappyFan on Nov 22, 2016 2:36:28 GMT
Which scoring record did In Gee break? If I've to guess, it's the scoring average by a rookie in LPGA history. When Nancy Lopez won Vare Trophy as a rookie in 1978, her scoring average was 71.76; In Gee won with 69.583. While you're probably right that In Gee had the lowest rookie scoring average in history, I think Beth is referring to the Major scoring record she set at Evian (ie, lowest score ever achieved in relation to par at a Major).
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Post by mr3putt on Nov 22, 2016 2:50:02 GMT
While you're probably right that In Gee had the lowest rookie scoring average in history, I think Beth is referring to the Major scoring record she set at Evian (ie, lowest score ever achieved in relation to par at a Major). Agree
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Post by mr3putt on Nov 22, 2016 3:08:16 GMT
Dottie speaks: www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/18098616/the-good-bad-ugly-lpga-tour-2016-seasonInteresting, did you guys talk here about players demanding one par 5 being reachable by everybody? part of her article: The Ugly
1. Hands off, players. Only one and this one came to my attention last week in Naples, Florida, while walking the course on Friday morning and questioning an LPGA official about why the par-5 17th hole was only 485 yards.
Watching the telecast the day prior, I had noticed nearly every player had been able to reach the green in two shots and Jutanugarn even reached it with just two irons. The official's explanation was this: they are trying to create some drama toward the end of the round, but there is also a committee of players who have passed along the directive that at least one par-5 be reachable for everyone each day.
I totally get the drama part, but the latter? Really? Players dictating setup philosophy? Now while the CME is not a major championship, it is clearly one of the most important events on the LPGA schedule and the players are telling the officials how to set up the course?
While I applaud the players for taking ownership of their tour, what do they really know about set up and bringing architectural features (plus strategy into play on various holes two of which were virtually eliminated on this particular hole) or the setup of an equitable competition? Many don't even know the rules!
Further exacerbating Saturday's setup where the par-5 sixth hole was reachable by most, in addition to No. 17, was the par-4 13th being moved up from 350 yards to 212. (No, that was not a typo.) The golf course overall played at less than 6,300 yards for the third round. As best as TV could tell, only one player even used a driver on the 13th!
Imagine other sports doing this: We're going to use a shorter rim in the NBA Finals for the shorter team if they are trailing in the final minutes; the ninth player in the lineup in the World Series gets to use an aluminum bat; the final row of Indianapolis 500 qualifiers get to use a bigger engine; if a player is trailing after two sets at Wimbledon, they get to use the margins of both the singles and doubles court.
This was more like a made-for-TV celebrity ski "competition" or a net handicap tournament. The LPGA has terrific officials. Hand off this particular wheel, players, and let them do their jobs.Dottie is so right...that's why many golfers consider the LPGA Mickey Mouse. A 212 yd par 4 is a complete JOKE. And let's not forget about wide fairways with minimal rough. Do you guys understand how short a course under 6300 yds plays in firm fast conditions found at Tiburon. The gals should only be playing courses 6600-6800 yards...these girls are good and can easily handle that length. It's all about the LONG BALL.....but the LPGA just doesn't understand that. Look at the PGA. .....people want to see the LONG BALL.....and in the absence of GOAT #2....there's still excitement on the PGA tour...why?.....look at the 10 ten pros on the OWGR....all are bombers except for Spieth who makes it up with his putter as recently demonstrated again at the Oz Open. We need the LPGA to set up the courses difficult. For the Oz Open....the final 3 holes were difficult to finish under par....and not one of the 4 guys in the RSM playoff this morning hit the green in the par 3 playoff hole.
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