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Post by SoYeonFan on Apr 5, 2021 2:02:47 GMT
Congratulation to young Patty Tavatanakit for a little drama filled win. She could have stumbled with Lydia flying up the Leaderboard but kept her poise. Even with Lydia's great round the key was she did what she had to do. Which was pretty amazing for an ex UCLA Golfer. kidding. Really great round for Lydia Ko as she flirted with shooting sixty. Sei Young Kim also had a great weekend, with twelve birdies and only two bogeys. That put her in a tie for top three, that didn't look that achievable after two rounds. But all I need to say is with Sei Young anything is possible. Another well managed round for Inbee Park for top seven tie. What can I say about Jin Young Ko except that she is a great number one Golfer. Not much was going right for her but she clutched up and birdied the last three holes. Another top twenty at the ANA for the great ex USC Trojan Gabriela Ruffels. This time as a Professional Golfer, last time as an Amateur. Nice round for Yui Kawamoto four birdies and one bogey. She didn't birdie any par fives again.
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Post by SoYeonFan on Apr 5, 2021 2:17:52 GMT
This is one of those Amazing but true, that happened today. Lexi Thompson had five birdies and one bogey. The amazing thing is she did not birdie a par five, her only bogey was on par five eighteen.
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Post by fanofseri on Apr 5, 2021 4:04:02 GMT
I'm surprised Matt Gaetz isn't more active on the forum. From now on I'll only root for players wearing pencil shorts.
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Post by don on Apr 5, 2021 4:09:45 GMT
“As for today's golf, the Old Ko could shoot 62 and I think she'd still lose. Patty T. looks completely unafraid of this golf course ... and completely bored.”
Pretty incredible how spot on this was.
Jordan and Lydia are back. Two of the three truly entertaining players in golf.
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Post by HappyFan on Apr 5, 2021 6:20:49 GMT
With that said, if any one dared to call a Korean player with Patty's credentials, 7 NCAA wins, T5 at the USWO, 3 wins on the Symetra Tour immediately after turning pro, as someone who 'has never shown the slightest indication of this level of talent', you'd be crying about a lack of coverage or respect. This part I agree with ... Patty T. brought some legitimate juice to the LPGA tour (I think she was also #1 on WAGR, for whatever that's worth). Unfortunately, the GIC pushed her to the side when Fasi and Bianca P. came along and started hitting 500-yard drives ... a lot of good that did - two trunk slammers this week. As for today's golf, the Old Ko could shoot 62 and I think she'd still lose. Patty T. looks completely unafraid of this golf course ... and completely bored. BTW, MHL scored a two on the par-4 12th ... haven't seen a video of it ... I'll bet a rogue TV Wowow video will have it.
You know how many top NCAA golfers were complete busts when they got to the pros? Ever heard of Beth Bauer or Amanda Blumenherst for example? And Symetra Tour wins are hardly a good measure of anything... Jennifer Song dominated there, and has yet to win on the big tour, for instance. Last year, PT played 14 events, missed 7 cuts, and had one top ten, a t-9th at the sparsely attended Marathon Classic. Not exactly mind blowing. "Patty T. looks completely unafraid of this golf course ... and completely bored" Me, too... The reason I was so sure she was going to win is because there is so little to disturb a player if she is hitting it long on this course. Even offline shots are barely punished. This is a Major; giving long hitters such a big advantage is boring. And I've said that for decades about this event, this is not new.
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Post by jamywinehouse on Apr 5, 2021 6:37:16 GMT
This part I agree with ... Patty T. brought some legitimate juice to the LPGA tour (I think she was also #1 on WAGR, for whatever that's worth). Unfortunately, the GIC pushed her to the side when Fasi and Bianca P. came along and started hitting 500-yard drives ... a lot of good that did - two trunk slammers this week. As for today's golf, the Old Ko could shoot 62 and I think she'd still lose. Patty T. looks completely unafraid of this golf course ... and completely bored. BTW, MHL scored a two on the par-4 12th ... haven't seen a video of it ... I'll bet a rogue TV Wowow video will have it.
You know how many top NCAA golfers were complete busts when they got to the pros? Ever heard of Beth Bauer or Amanda Blumenherst for example? And Symetra Tour wins are hardly a good measure of anything... Jennifer Song dominated there, and has yet to win on the big tour, for instance. Last year, PT played 14 events, missed 7 cuts, and had one top ten, a t-9th at the sparsely attended Marathon Classic. Not exactly mind blowing. "Patty T. looks completely unafraid of this golf course ... and completely bored" Me, too... The reason I was so sure she was going to win is because there is so little to disturb a player if she is hitting it long on this course. Even offline shots are barely punished. This is a Major; giving long hitters such a big advantage is boring. And I've said that for decades about this event, this is not new. My reply to you was simply about your declaration that Patty was a player who has 'never shown the slightest indication of this level of talent.' Regardless of what they make of their career, you look at a rookie's pedigree based upon what they achieved up to that point. Patty has been a start to watch for the past 3 years, and trying to Popov or Lindberg her is nonsense. And, the pandemic interrupted season was tough for a lot of players, trying to utilize that to downgrade this obviously talented rookie is just grasping at straws. Point still stands, if Jennifer Song was in this situation in her rookie year with her amazing amateur pedigree, and start of the Symetra tour and described her 'never having shown the slightest indication of this level of talent,' you'd be freaking out. That was the point I was trying to make.
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Post by HappyFan on Apr 5, 2021 6:49:16 GMT
I lurk on this forum, which is maddening, because when you're not selling players who weren't born in Korea short, the rest of ya'll are fetishizing players based on looks and style. Nothing like grown men, on a forum focusing on Korean (Asian) women, when half of ya'll are talking about their looks or how they are dressed. The conversation about how society looks at Asian Women, and fetishizes them, starts here, a forum where you guys are supposedly fans. lol With that said, if any one dared to call a Korean player with Patty's credentials, 7 NCAA wins, T5 at the USWO, 3 wins on the Symetra Tour immediately after turning pro, as someone who 'has never shown the slightest indication of this level of talent', you'd be crying about a lack of coverage or respect. While I agree the Korean players don't get nearly enough of the respect they deserve, having some sort of perspective and fairness would be clutch. But hey, you're not one of the many posters here who focuses on looks and skirt length, so I guess that's a win? The criticism about not taking Patty seriously are somewhat valid (although lots of NCAA players and Symetra stars don't pan out), she had a pretty good start to the year before ANA. Also, Popov is turning out to be a solid player on tour. But the fetishising, on the surface it may seem like it, but most on here are pretty serious fans with deep knowledge of the sport. Clothing sponsors are a big part of keeping the sport going in Asia, Korea and Japan especially - do you follow the sponsorship threads? It's a fine line, but I think we all stay on the right side of it here. Appreciation, not tongue out ogling. Except maybe for Hyunju! (kidding, sort of, haha - but she can play! ...and ya, I know, not the right climate for jokes - but hey, lighten up, Francis) And this forum is truly a great and needed counter to all the rah rah go USA commentary of most US media coverage of LPGA. So I don't mind the occasional jabs at the US players. And come on, who could love Stacy or Lexi? I don't agree with the fetishization argument, either, but it's fine to discuss it. Yeah, like true fans, we sometimes hype our faves at the expense of others, but other than the occasional bikini shot (which the ladies themselves, I hasten to add, decided to make available), there really isn't much here that is beyond G rated. If posters here started making lewd comments, I guarantee I would shut that down, but that almost never happens. I am a fan of the clothing posts because I think their clothes often makes them look really stylish and cool, and wonder why the American brands are so bland and boring in comparison. Hyun Ju is a weird case. She is, let's be honest, almost cartoonishly well built, and there is no doubt that that has helped her popularity with fans and sponsors (she has more Instagram followers than any Korean on the LPGA!). But she has also twice held a KLPGA card, so whereas she is not a superstar, she certainly has more cred than Paige Spirinac or that ilk. There are a few Korean pro golfers out there who are basically little more than a pretty face, but we rarely bother with them, because around here their golf talent is still the most important aspect. And come on, who could love Stacy or Lexi?
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Post by HappyFan on Apr 5, 2021 7:20:39 GMT
You know how many top NCAA golfers were complete busts when they got to the pros? Ever heard of Beth Bauer or Amanda Blumenherst for example? And Symetra Tour wins are hardly a good measure of anything... Jennifer Song dominated there, and has yet to win on the big tour, for instance. Last year, PT played 14 events, missed 7 cuts, and had one top ten, a t-9th at the sparsely attended Marathon Classic. Not exactly mind blowing. "Patty T. looks completely unafraid of this golf course ... and completely bored" Me, too... The reason I was so sure she was going to win is because there is so little to disturb a player if she is hitting it long on this course. Even offline shots are barely punished. This is a Major; giving long hitters such a big advantage is boring. And I've said that for decades about this event, this is not new. My reply to you was simply about your declaration that Patty was a player who has 'never shown the slightest indication of this level of talent.' Regardless of what they make of their career, you look at a rookie's pedigree based upon what they achieved up to that point. Patty has been a start to watch for the past 3 years, and trying to Popov or Lindberg her is nonsense. And, the pandemic interrupted season was tough for a lot of players, trying to utilize that to downgrade this obviously talented rookie is just grasping at straws. Point still stands, if Jennifer Song was in this situation in her rookie year with her amazing amateur pedigree, and start of the Symetra tour and described her 'never having shown the slightest indication of this level of talent,' you'd be freaking out. That was the point I was trying to make. If your reply was simply about what I said about PT, why did you choose to attack the entire forum membership like you did? That was uncalled for, don't you think? PT's better than Lindberg or Popov, I'll give you that. I did mention PT as a possible Rookie of the Year at the start of the 2020 season; look it up! It has been a constant for me that I think that college and Symetra Tour achievements pale as indicators of future LPGA success compared to success on other major pro tours (especially the KLPGA). Yes, I did wonder about how legit Jennifer Song was back in the day for that reason. I think I've been right about that far more often than not, but that doesn't mean I'm batting 1000! "the pandemic interrupted season was tough for a lot of players" -- For good or ill, the only major tour experience we could judge her by before this week was during 2020 and the first few events of this year. Discounting that because it was a weird situation seems arbitrary to me. Everyone had to deal with it. And I would argue that absolutely nothing PT achieved before this week comes close to showing her capable of what happened this week.
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Post by HappyFan on Apr 5, 2021 7:42:38 GMT
Round 4
Congratulations to Patty Tavatanakit. She held her nerve and did what she needed to do to claim a stunning victory and her first Major. I have issues with this course, but no doubt she was nearly flawless all week. She played the course she was given and won.
But is it that stunning? Consider this: the last time we had a Major winner who wasn't a first-time Major winner was, amazingly, Jin Young Ko at the '19 Evian; and even there, she had won HER first Major earlier in the year. I think you have to go back to Ariya at the 2018 US Women's Open to find a Major win from a previous Major winner from a different season (OK, Jin Young Ko had been #1 in the world before her second Major win, and obviously Sei Young Kim had been waiting a long time before her win and was a top player, but it's still weird that there have been so many first-time winners in the past three years).
The Big Three all had good weeks, but none of them were at their best. Inbee had some great moments, but at other times she struggled a bit with the course length. Jin Young Ko is so great that even with her B game she notched a top ten. Sei Young Kim managed a strong final round, given her the bragging rights as low Sister with a third place.
Well, Low sister except for Lydia Ko, who shot a 62 and still was not able to spook PT. Her best performance at a Major in ages.
Kudos also to Mirim Lee. She has done almost nothing of note since her win last year, but she showed it wasn't a fluke with her own top ten in her defense. But So Yeon and Lee6 were not able to gain ground in their efforts to make the Olympic team; they both had so-so weeks in the end, despite occasional flourishes.
Hopefully the Sisters will take this experience and be ready for their next events in the coming months. Hwaiting!
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Post by fanofseri on Apr 5, 2021 18:42:20 GMT
I volunteered to work as a locker room attendant at The Hugel Airbnb. I haven't heard back.
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Post by jumpcut on Apr 6, 2021 15:36:04 GMT
Karen Crouse of the NY Times likes the ANA over the ANWA. www.nytimes.com/2021/04/04/sports/golf/04golf-lpga-ana-final.htmlRANCHO MIRAGE, Calif. — Generation Next was in full flower over the weekend. Not at the former nursery in Georgia where youngsters and the top female amateurs convened for separate events at the invitation of the Augusta National Golf Club members who run the Masters Tournament, but across the country where a 21-year-old rookie, Patty Tavatanakit, won the ANA Inspiration on Sunday.
The 50th edition of the ANA Inspiration, the first of the five women’s golf majors of the year, will be remembered for Tavatanakit’s mastery of the course at Mission Hills Country Club and of the moment.
The Augusta National Women’s Amateur was being played at the same time. The opportunity it offered to play the final round on one of the world’s most storied courses had to be weighed against the chance to measure one’s game against the world’s most celebrated players.
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Post by don on Apr 6, 2021 19:23:34 GMT
Karen is the best. Didn't realize Patty chose the ANA over the ANWA in 2019. Nice to have that 2019 experience when you're going for the major win.
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Post by fanofseri on May 25, 2021 16:06:46 GMT
Marcoux Samaan needs to add some water fountains at ANA, upgrade the concession stands and allow super seniors to ride ebikes on the course.
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